A 56-minute rain delay, then another four hours and 41 minutes of play, is a long time to settle for almost, but that was the Pirates’ fate Thursday night into Friday morning in the 5-4 loss to the Reds at PNC Park that finally finished in the 13th inning at 12:42 a.m.
Brandon Phillips‘ line-drive home run off Rob Scahill to lead off the 13th went down as the deciding blow, but the Pirates were left to wonder exactly how they lost for the fifth time in six games.
“We missed some opportunities tonight in different areas,” Clint Hurdle said after his club dropped to 2-7 in extra-inning games and 2-7 against the fourth-place Reds.
The best of those squandered chances arrived in the 12th, when Andrew McCutchen smoked PedroVillarreal‘s fastball off the top of the left-field fence. It was inches away from a walkoff, but McCutchen was still at second base with no outs. After an intentional pass to Neil Walker, Jung Ho Kang lined out to first baseman Joey Votto. That was a bad break in and of itself, but Walker compounded the turn of events by wandering too far off the bag. Votto tagged him for an easy double play.
“You’re always working to get something of a secondary lead,” Hurdle said of Walker. “I’m sure he was aware of the positioning behind him. That run isn’t as important as the run in front of him, so hopefully we can learn and do better.”
Following a walk to pinch-hitter Jose Tabata, Francisco Cervelli bounced out to strand McCutchen, who couldn’t help but look back at the Kang lineout as the turning point.
“That can’t happen,” McCutchen said of the double play, “but there’s the chance that ball gets through and I score the winning run. It’s roulette.”
Walker was not immediately available for comment.
• Driving the ball out of the yard wasn’t in the cards for the Pirates on a damp night at PNC Park. Jordy Mercer and Gregory Polanco each appeared to have ended the game in the 11th against Cincinnati closer Aroldis Chapman, only to watch their moonshots die in Billy Hamilton‘s glove on the warning track.
Add in McCutchen’s double in the 12th — one that inspired him to start a home-run trot — and Cervelli’s deep flyout to right-center with two runners on in the eighth, and you couldn’t blame the Pirates for wondering what was going on.
“It is frustrating,” McCutchen said. “More often than not, those balls go out. Tonight, they didn’t. It’s been dead air around here lately. You hate that, but there were other opportunities we weren’t able to finish.”
The Pirates stranded 12 runners, 10 from the sixth inning onward.
“We hit some balls hard and couldn’t find the grass,” Hurdle said. “We hit a few to the deepest part of the ballpark, and it didn’t work for us. I was really pleased with the way our guys went out there and attacked … but we couldn’t find spots where they weren’t playing.”
• All of the waste on the basepaths could have been rendered moot with a clean seventh inning, but the irrepressible Todd Frazier spoiled those plans with a massive two-run home run, his 24th, off Arquimedes Caminero that tied the game, 4-4.
Frazier, who also drove in the Reds’ first run in the opening frame with a hard-hit single, was 3 for 6 with a walk.
“There haven’t been too many that have gotten away from us in the seventh,” Hurdle said. “Not a lot of room for error when you’re playing that late and you’re on the mound.”
Especially not against Frazier, who is 14 for 39 (.358) against the Pirates this year, with five home runs and 10 RBIs.
• Phillips has also done his share of damage in this rivalry. Not only did he cash in three hits — including a run-scoring triple in the second — but he also started this stunning double play in the eighth.
• That spectacular turn preceded a possible baserunning error by Mercer in the ninth, as he decided to stay put at second base on Harrison’s one-out infield single to the left side. Hurdle called it an “instinct play” and said Mercer would have had to break for third immediately to make it.
• Vance Worley has been relegated to mopup duty in recent weeks, not throwing a meaningful pitch since Atlanta’s Christian Bethancourt took him deep for a walkoff homer June 6, but that changed Thursday. Hurdle called on his former starter to follow scoreless outings from Antonio Bastardo, Tony Watson and Mark Melancon, and Worley responded with three scoreless innings, capped by a four-pitch 12th.
“Worley came up big again,” Hurdle said. “Gave us length and got through the middle of the order twice.”
Here’s more from Worley on finding a groove in a high-leverage spot:
• It wouldn’t be a Reds-Pirates series if McCutchen was able to keep his jersey clean at the plate. After being knocked down by an offspeed pitch in Tuesday’s series opener, he was spun around three times Thursday by inside fastballs. Starter Anthony DeSclafani nearly drilled McCutchen twice, and reliever Ryan Mattheus brushed him back in the ninth before getting him to pop up with two outs and the potential winning run at third base.
“As a man, that gets to you,” McCutchen said. “I wanted to grind it out and just do something. You get brushed back and you say, ‘I’m gonna try to hit this ball 500 feet.’ But that’s not the way to do it. You gotta stay within yourself. I’ve been around here long enough to know that.”
• Way back at the start of this one, A.J. Burnett pushed through a difficult first three frames to complete six innings and spare a taxed bullpen at least somewhat. He threw 110 pitches, one short of his season high, and left with the Pirates ahead.
“I would have gone nine if they wanted me to,” Burnett said. “You gotta go deeper if you want to win games. You’ve got to make a pitch no matter what happens. Just trying to go out there and hit spots.”
Burnett left some pitches up while navigating through nine baserunners in the first four innings. He closed three innings with strikeouts — he had five overall — and induced an inning-ending double play in the fourth.
Burnett also chipped in with the bat, lining a two-run single in the second to put the Pirates up 3-2. It was his first multiple-RBI hit in his 558th career plate appearance.
“I got my bat in the right spot,” Burnett said. “I was just excited. Had a chance to talk to Votto. Don’t get that chance very often.”
“I’m sure he was aware of the positioning behind him. That run isn’t as important as the run in front of him, so hopefully we can learn and do better.”
Learn and do better, Hurdle?? Is Walker a rookie? Let's face it, Neil hasn't been very good this season, and that baserunning gaffe--one of the worst I've seen--was a microcosm of the season this offense is having. We knew the pitching would come back to earth, but the offense needs to start winning its share of games.
Thankfully, the rest of the NL (save STL) is also mediocre, and we're still leading the wild card race.
What did you want him to say? To publicly call out Neil in the press? That would be an awful thing to do. He said it shouldn't happen and it shouldn't. I guess you'd feel better if Hurdle started cursing and ranting but it wouldn't change the outcome.
tony_jacobelli
6-26-2015, 8:12 am
exactly! walker's run was not only meaningless, it wouldn't have even counted. what in the world is he even doing off the bag at second?? someone please clue this club into the fact that winning by 2 at the bottom of an extra inning is not possible!
6Lombardis
6-26-2015, 9:42 am
Tony- sorry to be that guy but - off the bag at first and it is technically possible to win by as much as 4 but I get what you mean and I agree. The bigger question is -why didn't they bunt w 2 on and no outs?
Matt in AZ
6-26-2015, 12:33 pm
cmat---No, I wouldn't feel better if Hurdle cursed or ranted, because that's simply not his personality. And he did call Walker out in the press, just not in a rude, overbearing manner, because that's also not his personality. Read the quote again. Hurdle, in my opinion, is guilty sometimes of being TOO nice and TOO optimistic.
I would feel better if this team stopped making critical baserunning errors, stopped coming off the base after sliding, and started scoring some runs more consistently. It's a good thing Walker is having a down year, because it will make management's decision to not bring him back next season easier. Too much money in his final arbitration for too little production.
cmat0829
6-26-2015, 2:58 pm
Ok Matt. I agree with your criticism of the players especially Walker a veteran who should know better. But you started your rant withy criticizing Hurdle and what he said. I guess it's just easier to pick on Hurdle. Question the non bunt absolutely. But at this point Hurdle is dealing with a flawed roster construction and several underperforming players in all phases. Not sure what he can do The players have to step up and or Neal needs to change up the roster.
Reading
6-26-2015, 4:30 am
Never any protection for Cutch. Phillips, Frazier, and Votto grtting through the series without being dusted off at least once is disrespectful to Cutch when he's being buzzed and having to dive out of the way of up and in pitches several times each game.
At some point, these giveaway losses will have to get to the Great Optimist. Half the team's played the year as though they had something else on their minds.
Maybe time for a fresh batch of Ma Hurdle's Magically Marvelous Mysterious Motivational Elixir and Snake Oil.
JosePagan
6-26-2015, 7:27 am
Hopefully everyone showered well.
Jose
Radio wave
6-26-2015, 7:03 am
Now 8 back again. Three weeks of great ball down the drain. At least Cubs lost.
Thanks, Matt. Great recap. It's very interesting to me, and good for the site, to have all three of you rotating in and out of covering the different teams.
If you think the lack of power is bad now, just wait. The Pirates don't have a single Top 30 hitting prospects with an ISO above .150 this year, which is generally considered to be average for a hitter.
I realize this is intentional; a concerted push towards contact over power. That's fine. But there simply has to be balance, and I just don't see it.
Josh Bell simply has to learn to add power to his game.
It actually was a bit surprising that Walker got caught out - he is a pretty canny guy and doesn't often do something like that.
During the game there just seemed to be this ongoing accumulation of little things that were either mistakes or opportunities to advance a runner that just didn't happen. And is it just me or does everyone hold their breath when Pedro is about to throw the ball anywhere...
Pedro was okay yesterday. But I agree with you, that overall that game was just ugly in all phases. Both teams.
JosePagan
6-26-2015, 7:57 am
I would also agree that Pedro was not the reason they lost vis a vis his fielding, but the infield is suffering from a lack of confidence, imho.
The PBC uses all of these ridiculous shifts and everyone HAS to be able to field effectively. Pedro's developmental stasis at 1B isn't helping that.
Jose
bpn8pitt
6-26-2015, 8:02 am
The thing about the move to first that bothers me the most, is that it was due in part to stoke the bat. If he had 20+ Hrs right now, I think they could live with it. But that isn't the case.
NMR
6-26-2015, 11:02 am
"developmental stasis" is a perfect description. Floors me seeing how poor he's been. It simply isn't THAT difficult of a position for an already-infielder to pick up.
woodman15062
6-26-2015, 7:42 am
This team, starting with the manager to the players is not capable to win a world series.
If someone were to ask Cutch if he dislikes the Reds or Cardinals more, I'd almost guarantee he pick the Reds. They have been after him for years now, ever since Chapman got him with the heat. That's getting old and has to end.
Bingo Bob,
Hurdle makes me crazy. What the hell is he doing? Runners at 1st and 2nd with nobody out? BUNT - BUNT - BUNT! You would have had A fast guy on third, an Intentional walk to Tabata. Corners in, with the middle needing a DP to stay in the game. A Cervelli flyball to win it. Or a walk. Or a ground ball thats not hit very hard.
Its elementary baseball: Get a runner to third with less than two outs and odds are he will score.
Did anyone (Matt) ask Hurdle why he didnt bunt there. The only reason I could think of would be that Kang cant do it.
nfontana85
6-26-2015, 8:38 am
thanks Capt. Hindsight.
JosePagan
6-26-2015, 8:48 am
I was getting a kick out of Clint giving stick to the home plate ump about balls and strikes. The announcers on Root picked it up (Walk and Brown) and then Root started showing the pitches on strike zone illustrator thingamajig...and they were all balls...
steeltownpaws
6-26-2015, 9:18 am
Right on Bob...had to bunt then
Steelkings
6-26-2015, 9:30 am
Your welcome Capt Insight
Matt Gajtka
6-26-2015, 9:33 am
I think the double play distracted from the tactical decision. Strange that none of us asked...that's one of the very few spots in a game that it makes sense sabermetrically to bunt.
All I can say is mea culpa.
Matt Gajtka
6-26-2015, 9:35 am
Also, was planning to run an item on the liberal strike zone, but other events dictated that it get left out. It was definitely part of the story early.
Steelkings
6-26-2015, 9:39 am
I think I know the answer. Its because Tabby was the only position player left. If he bunts Kang he has to use Tabata. They give him the intentional and pitch to Cervelli and Mercer. Just a bad spot in the Line up.
6Lombardis
6-26-2015, 9:44 am
I woke my wife up yelling "bunt" at the TV. Although she was not impressed, she agreed it was the right call.
The wolf
6-26-2015, 10:04 am
Matt Im glad youre picking up on the strike zone issue. I cant remember so many poorlyor unevenly called games behind home plate. Was driving me nuts but theres nothing we can do. I think it adds a level of frustration for a team already struggling offensively that they certainly could do without.
Also, would be interested to learn if youre in favor of electronically calling balls and strikes, thx.
Matt Gajtka
6-26-2015, 10:20 am
Wolf, I am in favor of using technology for balls and strikes, although I still think umpires are needed for other calls. The capability for an automated strike zone is there with Pitch F/X.
JosePagan
6-26-2015, 11:50 am
That was my point though: When everyone was complaining about not getting the calls, the technology showed - clearly - that the ump was getting them right.
Jose
Arriba Wilver
6-26-2015, 12:39 pm
I got that, Jose.
Arriba Wilver
6-26-2015, 12:40 pm
Happens a lot, actually. Sometimes I'm amazed how they are shown to be "right" by the electronic thingamajig and people still complain, like it didn't happen.
chethejet
6-26-2015, 7:55 am
NH and Hurdle need to recognize the days of development have to be replaced with performance based PT. They can't win with Pedro. They can't win with bad fundamentals, poor offense and pull happy batters.
First - extremely well written and informative. I fell asleep at midnight and missed a lot of that. Great coverage.
Second - The Walker double play and the Cutch premature HR trot keep bringing me back to the word Irresponsible. Can't decide if Irresponsible or Selfish fits this team better.
This team can make the playoffs on talent alone. We have it in scores. But chasing pitches, base running, poor d (although Mercer seemed to cover a lot of ground that game), wreckless slides.... I just keep coming back to irresponsible or selfish.
Cutch wasn't in complete cruise mode but you could tell he thought he got all of it.
jordanwhite1025
6-26-2015, 10:53 am
Thanks for clarification. Not having seen the play, I still wonder if busting out of the box would have produced a triple, which is a much different game with winning run 90 feet away. I'll defer to you all who actually stayed up to watch.
NMR
6-26-2015, 11:13 am
I don't even know how much of this is completely fair, but Neil Walker just rubs me the wrong way.
All this disgruntled talk about his lack-of-contract, followed up by absolutely tanking his performance so far reminds me a lot of 2012. He was one of the few players to openly complain about the Front Office "not doing enough to help out" at the trade deadline, even as he himself completely bombed after the All Star break.
I could very well be wrong. This could all be coincidental. But it strikes me as entitled, and I don't like that.
Arriba Wilver
6-26-2015, 12:36 pm
I second that, NMR.
On Cutch's hit? I don't think there's a player in MLB who would have been busting out of the box on that hit. I did find it odd Cutch didn't seem to let it go, though. Kept yammering.
Carmen
6-26-2015, 6:03 pm
I've gone from being a big Walker fan to being ready to deal both him and Pedro.
Saw your LinkedIn yesterday and was impressed. Also enjoyed the in game updates during the thread. Really looking forward to what you will bring to the college coverage...With you and Yohe on board this site is a must have for Pittsburgh sports fans.
Matt Gajtka
6-26-2015, 10:24 am
Thanks, BPN. The college coverage team is being assembled as we speak!
Arriba Wilver
6-26-2015, 12:31 pm
Last night/this morning was fun, Matt.
gstartari21
6-26-2015, 9:44 am
Nice report Matt, but as you and I spoke about last night via Twitter, Mercer has to get to third base on the Harrison infield single in the 9th. There was no way Frazier would have beaten him to the bag (or the shortstop). Had he made it, the Reds would have pulled their infield in and Votto never would have been in position to make the play on the Polanco groundout---it would have been in right field and the Buccos walkoff in the 9th. These are the little things that separate the Pirates from the Cardinals. But quite frankly, its baseball 101. Mercer has to get to third base.
I was listening on the radio at that point and Walk said the Suarez did a great job of jab stepping Mercer back to the bag slightly before the ball was put in play. He said if Mercer would have tried to advance he would have been out. Walk said Great defense and solid base running by each guy.
Matt Gajtka
6-26-2015, 10:08 am
Thought I had included it under the Phillips double play video. I have added Hurdle's description.
Jay Baileys
6-26-2015, 9:52 am
I went to bed right after the NW brainfart. Did anyone catch Cutch coming back to the bench as they cut to the commercial, it sure looked like he said something to the effect " wasn't he paying attention" and they showed Walker at the other end of the dugout with his back turned. Im sure they wouldn't talk about it now, but are some of NW's teammates getting frustrated with him? They showed him covering second with the super slow catcher on and Walk was saying how he was running back into position as the pitcher was in motion. They showed Walker with hands up in a "what do you want me to do" type moment to the dugout I guess. Just something I picked up, probably nothing though.
I wouldn't talk if I were Cutch. Going into a HR trot beofre it's actually known to be a HR may have cost them an extra base and possibly the game. These kind of things are what seperates the really good teams from the wannabes.
Arriba Wilver
6-26-2015, 12:28 pm
I thought Cutch's comment that Matt mentioned pretty much told that story. And I suspect it's not just this one incident with Walker. Even DK said Walker's contract status may be bothering him. His teammates may be tired of that if that is the case.
cmat0829
6-26-2015, 2:51 pm
Cutch was also visibly upset earlier in the game when Neil hit into the dp. The one that hot dog Phillips went behind the back on. Hurdle talked to him about why he was upset but maybe that was Walker too?
Todd Frazier, in his natural habitat of crushing the Pirates, tied the score with a two-run blast in the seventh. -- GETTY
June 26, 2015
A long, dreary, damp night … and then defeat
by Matt Gajtka • Coverage • Pirates
A 56-minute rain delay, then another four hours and 41 minutes of play, is a long time to settle for almost, but that was the Pirates’ fate Thursday night into Friday morning in the 5-4 loss to the Reds at PNC Park that finally finished in the 13th inning at 12:42 a.m.
Brandon Phillips‘ line-drive home run off Rob Scahill to lead off the 13th went down as the deciding blow, but the Pirates were left to wonder exactly how they lost for the fifth time in six games.
“We missed some opportunities tonight in different areas,” Clint Hurdle said after his club dropped to 2-7 in extra-inning games and 2-7 against the fourth-place Reds.
The best of those squandered chances arrived in the 12th, when Andrew McCutchen smoked Pedro Villarreal‘s fastball off the top of the left-field fence. It was inches away from a walkoff, but McCutchen was still at second base with no outs. After an intentional pass to Neil Walker, Jung Ho Kang lined out to first baseman Joey Votto. That was a bad break in and of itself, but Walker compounded the turn of events by wandering too far off the bag. Votto tagged him for an easy double play.
“You’re always working to get something of a secondary lead,” Hurdle said of Walker. “I’m sure he was aware of the positioning behind him. That run isn’t as important as the run in front of him, so hopefully we can learn and do better.”
Following a walk to pinch-hitter Jose Tabata, Francisco Cervelli bounced out to strand McCutchen, who couldn’t help but look back at the Kang lineout as the turning point.
“That can’t happen,” McCutchen said of the double play, “but there’s the chance that ball gets through and I score the winning run. It’s roulette.”
Walker was not immediately available for comment.
• Driving the ball out of the yard wasn’t in the cards for the Pirates on a damp night at PNC Park. Jordy Mercer and Gregory Polanco each appeared to have ended the game in the 11th against Cincinnati closer Aroldis Chapman, only to watch their moonshots die in Billy Hamilton‘s glove on the warning track.
Add in McCutchen’s double in the 12th — one that inspired him to start a home-run trot — and Cervelli’s deep flyout to right-center with two runners on in the eighth, and you couldn’t blame the Pirates for wondering what was going on.
“It is frustrating,” McCutchen said. “More often than not, those balls go out. Tonight, they didn’t. It’s been dead air around here lately. You hate that, but there were other opportunities we weren’t able to finish.”
The Pirates stranded 12 runners, 10 from the sixth inning onward.
“We hit some balls hard and couldn’t find the grass,” Hurdle said. “We hit a few to the deepest part of the ballpark, and it didn’t work for us. I was really pleased with the way our guys went out there and attacked … but we couldn’t find spots where they weren’t playing.”
• All of the waste on the basepaths could have been rendered moot with a clean seventh inning, but the irrepressible Todd Frazier spoiled those plans with a massive two-run home run, his 24th, off Arquimedes Caminero that tied the game, 4-4.
Frazier, who also drove in the Reds’ first run in the opening frame with a hard-hit single, was 3 for 6 with a walk.
“There haven’t been too many that have gotten away from us in the seventh,” Hurdle said. “Not a lot of room for error when you’re playing that late and you’re on the mound.”
Especially not against Frazier, who is 14 for 39 (.358) against the Pirates this year, with five home runs and 10 RBIs.
• Phillips has also done his share of damage in this rivalry. Not only did he cash in three hits — including a run-scoring triple in the second — but he also started this stunning double play in the eighth.
• That spectacular turn preceded a possible baserunning error by Mercer in the ninth, as he decided to stay put at second base on Harrison’s one-out infield single to the left side. Hurdle called it an “instinct play” and said Mercer would have had to break for third immediately to make it.
• Vance Worley has been relegated to mopup duty in recent weeks, not throwing a meaningful pitch since Atlanta’s Christian Bethancourt took him deep for a walkoff homer June 6, but that changed Thursday. Hurdle called on his former starter to follow scoreless outings from Antonio Bastardo, Tony Watson and Mark Melancon, and Worley responded with three scoreless innings, capped by a four-pitch 12th.
“Worley came up big again,” Hurdle said. “Gave us length and got through the middle of the order twice.”
Here’s more from Worley on finding a groove in a high-leverage spot:
• It wouldn’t be a Reds-Pirates series if McCutchen was able to keep his jersey clean at the plate. After being knocked down by an offspeed pitch in Tuesday’s series opener, he was spun around three times Thursday by inside fastballs. Starter Anthony DeSclafani nearly drilled McCutchen twice, and reliever Ryan Mattheus brushed him back in the ninth before getting him to pop up with two outs and the potential winning run at third base.
“As a man, that gets to you,” McCutchen said. “I wanted to grind it out and just do something. You get brushed back and you say, ‘I’m gonna try to hit this ball 500 feet.’ But that’s not the way to do it. You gotta stay within yourself. I’ve been around here long enough to know that.”
• Way back at the start of this one, A.J. Burnett pushed through a difficult first three frames to complete six innings and spare a taxed bullpen at least somewhat. He threw 110 pitches, one short of his season high, and left with the Pirates ahead.
“I would have gone nine if they wanted me to,” Burnett said. “You gotta go deeper if you want to win games. You’ve got to make a pitch no matter what happens. Just trying to go out there and hit spots.”
Burnett left some pitches up while navigating through nine baserunners in the first four innings. He closed three innings with strikeouts — he had five overall — and induced an inning-ending double play in the fourth.
Burnett also chipped in with the bat, lining a two-run single in the second to put the Pirates up 3-2. It was his first multiple-RBI hit in his 558th career plate appearance.
“I got my bat in the right spot,” Burnett said. “I was just excited. Had a chance to talk to Votto. Don’t get that chance very often.”