CINCINNATI — It’s been only 16 days since the All-Star Game here at Great American Ball Park, but it must feel like an eternity for A.J. Burnett, who has looked every bit a 38-year-old pitcher in recent starts and again was shelled in a 15-5 loss to the Reds Thursday night.
Entering 2015, Burnett had never, in 16 seasons of Major League Baseball, permitted the opposition to run up double-digit hits against him in consecutive games. He has dealt with control issues throughout his career, but the act of producing hits against him has always been difficult.
Then came the All-Star break. And maybe Father Time.
And now this, a 4 1/3-inning line of eight runs, 10 hits and a three-run Marlon Byrdblast.
Burnett has made three starts since the break, against the Royals, Nationals and Reds, and he’s allowed 11, 11 and 10 hits, respectively. The man who had never allowed a team to whack 10 hits or more against him in consecutive starts has now let it happen three straight times.
And in this game, he began by throwing his fastball in the 88-89 mph range, well below the norm, before suddenly ratcheting up to 93-94 mph in his fifth and final inning.
What was that all about?
Clint Hurdle clearly seemed concerned that Burnett was thrown off by inactivity during the break. He started July 11, the night of Andrew McCutchen’s walkoff home run against the Cardinals. He didn’t pitch again until July 20 in Kansas City. So, wanting to get Burnett into more of a routine, Hurdle altered his rotation to make sure Burnett had only four off days before this start.
It didn’t work.
“I don’t know,” Burnett replied when asked if the time off disrupted him. “Maybe. I don’t look into that. We threw enough bullpens. I’m just not executing like I was.”
Burnett and Hurdle both assessed that, by late in this outing, the pitcher was looking more comfortable. His radar gun readings were their highest of the season, in fact, in that final inning. His curveball had its bite back.
Still, Burnett was down in the dumps about this outing. His command was never there.
“Maybe I got a hair (better),” he said. “But it was too late by then. I need to get that from the get-go next time.”
If the Pirates are to chase down the Cardinals, the first-half Burnett almost certainly must resurface.
“I don’t think it’s a rough patch,” he said. “I just had a bad day. I’ve got work to do. I don’t think it was a rough patch. I’ve got to get back on track, help this team win.”
Then, a little bit of that old Burnett defiance surfaced.
“Next time I need to be better,” he said. “And I will be.”
• Hurdle’s bullpen was already overworked when the eighth rolled around, which prompted him to use Jaff Decker. On the mound.
And it went pretty well. Decker permitted two hits but emerged without a run.
“Last time I pitched,” Decker told me, “was the state championship game in my senior year of high school in 2008.”
He admitted to enjoying the experience.
“You’re out there against Brandon Phillips and Joey Votto, guys like that,” he said. “Yeah, no doubt that was fun. I’m glad I got the chance to do it.”
Decker hit 82 mph a handful of times.
The Pirates, of course, hope they don’t need to use him in such a role again.
“But it was pretty cool to be out there,” he said with a smile.
The last time the Pirates used a position player to pitch was last season, when Travis Snider worked an inning in a loss.
• The Reds were the beneficiary of a friendly ruling by home plate umpire Joe West in the fourth. Pedro Alvarez fielded a bunt by Billy Hamilton and moved in the direction of Cincinnati’s speedster. Hamilton ran well out of the baseline to avoid Alvarez, who threw to first instead of attempting to tag him.
West gave Hurdle an interesting explanation.
“Joe told me that if Alvarez would have made an attempt to tag him he would have called him out,” Hurdle said. “I told him that the guy exited stage right. Joe and I didn’t see it quite the same way. That’s a hard play for a first baseman. That’s a dynamic runner. That play didn’t work for us. The call was the call. A lot of things happened after that.”
It was yet another interesting night for Alvarez.
He committed his 16th error, the most of any first baseman in Major League Baseball this season, this on another play in the fifth. Hurdle explained that the Pirates had their infield drawn up with one out and runners at the corners, and the singular collective thought was to throw home. Hamilton was at the plate, and it’s nearly impossible to double him up.
So, Alvarez threw to second in hopes of a double play. And sailed the throw into left field.
“We talked about it,” Hurdle said.
On the bright side, Alvarez hit a home run off a left-handed pitcher, rookie David Holmberg making his season debut, for the first time since April.
• The Pirates took advantage of the blowout by getting some players rest. Jung Ho Kang and Francisco Cervelli were removed. Cervelli has been banged up most of the season, and the Pirates are quite concerned about Kang, who has never played a 162-game season.
Hurdle said he would have liked to have rested Aramis Ramirez and McCutchen, too, but “I ran out of players.”
• Gregory Polanco played the whole game, as well, one day after being removed because of knee soreness in Minnesota. He beat out a bunt single on the game’s first pitch and wound up 2 for 4 with a walk.
• It’s hard to say what’s a break and what isn’t for these Pirates on the road against Central Division opponents, but at 12:49 a.m., about two hours after this game, the Reds traded Mike Leake, their scheduled Sunday starter in this series, to the Giants for infielder Adam Duvall and pitcher Keury Mella. Cincinnati almost surely will have to dip into the minors again for a replacement.
And, Neal sits on his ass and thinks this team is good enough to win.
Biz
7-31-2015, 3:25 am
Leake is a rental?
BuccoAficionado
7-31-2015, 8:21 am
Florida Steeler, the Pirates have been good enough to win enough games so far to have the 3rd best record in baseball.
cmat0829
7-31-2015, 9:40 am
Yes leake is a FA after the season.
Florida Steeler
7-31-2015, 9:56 am
Bucco,
That record means NOTHING. If they play for a wild card berth, they will lose to the Giants or Dodgers. You heard it here, and then tell me what third best record means??,
BuccoAficionado
7-31-2015, 10:36 am
Florida Steeler, every team in baseball would at best be a wild-card team if they were in the Cardinals division.
Arriba Wilver
7-31-2015, 2:18 pm
Easiest prediction to make in Baseball and the stock market is things will go bad. If they do go bad, you're right, if they don't go bad, no one cares. And the percentages are always with you in baseball.
cheese in socal
7-31-2015, 1:04 am
i dont buy the "that's all i had man" nonsense about the 87mph fastballs. Something was up...almost like it was intentionally. He looked like he was throwing bp to his boy in the backyard.
yeah you're right he took 6 mil less to come here and intention try lose. nice thought process
EddieT
7-31-2015, 3:27 pm
I agree that AJ looked like something was wrong, as Bob Walk first pointed out to all of us. AJ did look like he was throwing bp, in his motion, his lack of speed and he seemed a little disconnected emotionally. Even Searage was concerned and he questioned Cervelli after the first inning. Walk suggested that something was hurting or he was not loose, which is where the word "intentional" is applicable. Maybe four days rest was not enough at his age. It seemed obvious in the first inning that Burnett could not be competitive unless and until he immediately found some speed and control. I haven't heard any cogent explanation. Is AJ reverting to the form he had in Filthydelphia last year when his ERA was much higher? No need to jump to any extreme sarcasm about an intention to lose. The observation is that something wasn't quite right and I had to wonder whether he wasn't telling anyone what was hurting. It cost the team any chance that it might have had to win.
Lumbergh
7-31-2015, 1:32 am
Yeah, I'm not gonna get too excited about facing a minor leaguer on Sunday, just like I didn't for tonight's game.
Plenty to dislike about tonight, especially the pitching (holy mackerel Bastardo?! Was he kidding?), but it was a perfect illustration of how I feel about Pedro. "Yay! Boo! Alright! Ugh."
Unless he changed the sentence since your comment, he never claimed that AJ have up all 15. Just that he was shelled in a 15-5 loss. Shelled FOR 15 and I agree with your point.
DK219
7-31-2015, 6:28 am
Pretty sure it was changed.
powells4fam
7-31-2015, 1:55 am
I predict AJ gives up just 3 runs at max his next start.
Cards are 9.5 games better than Bucs in the division and Cubs are 4.5. It Pirates were just playing .500 divisional ball, they would be only 1.5 GB Cards and would be 9 games ahead of Cubs (and 7 ahead of Giants).
dhermann905
7-31-2015, 7:05 am
Why does it seem like the Pirates are HORRIBLE vs the NL Central?
I feel like this is by design. Trade Leake prior to the deadline and get another first time pitcher to face pittsburgh wjo cant hit a rookie to save thileir lives.
Yea, I'm sure the Reds waited to make a deal and risk losing it to make sure it coincided with the Pirates series. C'mon man.
Nick
7-31-2015, 9:21 am
So the play by play guy in the Hamilton video said he (Hamilton) was still in the box... Not even close. On top of that, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the Pirates get called out on a similar play a little while back? Only or guy was just barely off the chalk line, if at all.
I think, reading the story above and seeing the replays, the issue was whether Pedro tried to tag him out. It was clear he thought about it, but he never made a move to do so.
it would be awesome if Pedro would go out to first base with a blind fold on tonight
Adam
7-31-2015, 3:12 pm
If I was playing against the Pirates, I'd bunt to Pedro a lot. It's almost a guarantee that half of the throws he'd have to make would end up in the seats somewhere.
Milo Hamilton
7-31-2015, 9:41 am
They needed another starter before any of this. So go ahead and pick who starts Game 2 against the Cards in St. Louis, Burnett, Morton or Locke. Good luck with that.
Milo,
We have been calling for a starting pitcher since FA began and it WAS a buyers market yet Neal does nothing.
I am beginning to question Nutting/ Huntington as to whether they really want to take the next step. Giants fighting for wild card and they get LEAKE- we do nothing. I think Neal is playing for wild card and given division to Cards.
Milo Hamilton
7-31-2015, 9:56 am
Steeler - Huntington is loathe to give up prospects in deals. I completely understand that. When you sign a guy as a free agent in the winter time you don't have to give up a prospect in return. Nothing you can do about that now, but you get my point.
Berniebaseball
7-31-2015, 10:35 am
Free agency is where u can make your moves and keep your farm in tact. Reluctance to spend the additional 30 mill they should be spending
EddieT
7-31-2015, 3:33 pm
Absolutely right. I cannot believe that someone like Latos or Leake was not obtainable. What was the old line: "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain"? With the Pirates it is Cole and Liriano and cry in your Sterno.
Dave
7-31-2015, 10:21 am
If anyone can it will be AJ love the passion he brings all day everyday it's just a bump in the road!!
What he brought yesterday and it wasn't even touched upon (I guess AJ intimidates media types too!) was a bush league effort including showing up his coaches and teammates again on the mound. And umpire. He acted like a spoiled 13 year old and pitched like one too. For the past 6 starts or so he has been bad. So when is he bounce back coming???? I like AJ and he has pitched awesome in the first half but this article was way too easy on AJ.
Bags
7-31-2015, 2:13 pm
@Cmat0829 4 starts ago he gave 3 runs in 6 1/3 innings, 5 starts ago gave up 1 over 7 2/3, 6 ago was only 2 runs over 7 innings. It's only been his last 3 starts since the all star break that have been shaky. He'll find it again.
Arriba Wilver
7-31-2015, 2:27 pm
Good stuff, Bags.
cheese in socal
7-31-2015, 2:54 pm
bush league is right. he was just going through the motions and looked disinterested. and acted like a jerk. the only reason he was still in the game in the 3rd inning is because no one has the nads to put him in his place. searage looked scared going out there. correct statement: how many of these half-*** starts will he subject us to before deciding he wants to pitch. it is almost as if he thinks hurdle told bochy not to pitch him at the all star game. so he is mailing it in. im not being serious but thats how bad it looked.
Dana King
7-31-2015, 10:45 am
Another Pedro Alvarez Hat Trick: A home run, a strike out, and an error.
I thought it was interesting how they stayed away from using Blanton last night even though he hadn't pitched since Monday. Almost as if they were saving him in case they needed him to start tonight.
Milwaukee just traded Gerardo Parra to Baltimore. Did you know he has the third highest OPS ( 1. Harper 2. Stanton) of all NL outfielders this year ? Andrew McCutchen is 4th.
no problems with a guy pitching a bad game or two...BIG issue with a 39 year old
"clubhouse leader" acting a fool and showing his manager up...the kid from the Phils who was making his first or
second start at least did it in clubhouse...
They can try the Chuck Tanner approach when he needed a starter and had none. Three innings from Rooker and three more from the next bum, with instructions to throw everything they had for a short time. That assumes that the two headed starter has anything to begin with.
Marlon Byrd is congratulated by Joey Votto after his early three-run home run Thursday. -- GETTY
July 31, 2015
Defiant A.J. predicts he’ll bounce back
by Josh Yohe • Coverage • Pirates
CINCINNATI — It’s been only 16 days since the All-Star Game here at Great American Ball Park, but it must feel like an eternity for A.J. Burnett, who has looked every bit a 38-year-old pitcher in recent starts and again was shelled in a 15-5 loss to the Reds Thursday night.
Entering 2015, Burnett had never, in 16 seasons of Major League Baseball, permitted the opposition to run up double-digit hits against him in consecutive games. He has dealt with control issues throughout his career, but the act of producing hits against him has always been difficult.
Then came the All-Star break. And maybe Father Time.
And now this, a 4 1/3-inning line of eight runs, 10 hits and a three-run Marlon Byrd blast.
Burnett has made three starts since the break, against the Royals, Nationals and Reds, and he’s allowed 11, 11 and 10 hits, respectively. The man who had never allowed a team to whack 10 hits or more against him in consecutive starts has now let it happen three straight times.
And in this game, he began by throwing his fastball in the 88-89 mph range, well below the norm, before suddenly ratcheting up to 93-94 mph in his fifth and final inning.
What was that all about?
Clint Hurdle clearly seemed concerned that Burnett was thrown off by inactivity during the break. He started July 11, the night of Andrew McCutchen’s walkoff home run against the Cardinals. He didn’t pitch again until July 20 in Kansas City. So, wanting to get Burnett into more of a routine, Hurdle altered his rotation to make sure Burnett had only four off days before this start.
It didn’t work.
“I don’t know,” Burnett replied when asked if the time off disrupted him. “Maybe. I don’t look into that. We threw enough bullpens. I’m just not executing like I was.”
Burnett and Hurdle both assessed that, by late in this outing, the pitcher was looking more comfortable. His radar gun readings were their highest of the season, in fact, in that final inning. His curveball had its bite back.
Still, Burnett was down in the dumps about this outing. His command was never there.
“Maybe I got a hair (better),” he said. “But it was too late by then. I need to get that from the get-go next time.”
If the Pirates are to chase down the Cardinals, the first-half Burnett almost certainly must resurface.
“I don’t think it’s a rough patch,” he said. “I just had a bad day. I’ve got work to do. I don’t think it was a rough patch. I’ve got to get back on track, help this team win.”
Then, a little bit of that old Burnett defiance surfaced.
“Next time I need to be better,” he said. “And I will be.”
• Hurdle’s bullpen was already overworked when the eighth rolled around, which prompted him to use Jaff Decker. On the mound.
And it went pretty well. Decker permitted two hits but emerged without a run.
“Last time I pitched,” Decker told me, “was the state championship game in my senior year of high school in 2008.”
He admitted to enjoying the experience.
“You’re out there against Brandon Phillips and Joey Votto, guys like that,” he said. “Yeah, no doubt that was fun. I’m glad I got the chance to do it.”
Decker hit 82 mph a handful of times.
The Pirates, of course, hope they don’t need to use him in such a role again.
“But it was pretty cool to be out there,” he said with a smile.
The last time the Pirates used a position player to pitch was last season, when Travis Snider worked an inning in a loss.
• The Reds were the beneficiary of a friendly ruling by home plate umpire Joe West in the fourth. Pedro Alvarez fielded a bunt by Billy Hamilton and moved in the direction of Cincinnati’s speedster. Hamilton ran well out of the baseline to avoid Alvarez, who threw to first instead of attempting to tag him.
West gave Hurdle an interesting explanation.
“Joe told me that if Alvarez would have made an attempt to tag him he would have called him out,” Hurdle said. “I told him that the guy exited stage right. Joe and I didn’t see it quite the same way. That’s a hard play for a first baseman. That’s a dynamic runner. That play didn’t work for us. The call was the call. A lot of things happened after that.”
It was yet another interesting night for Alvarez.
He committed his 16th error, the most of any first baseman in Major League Baseball this season, this on another play in the fifth. Hurdle explained that the Pirates had their infield drawn up with one out and runners at the corners, and the singular collective thought was to throw home. Hamilton was at the plate, and it’s nearly impossible to double him up.
So, Alvarez threw to second in hopes of a double play. And sailed the throw into left field.
“We talked about it,” Hurdle said.
On the bright side, Alvarez hit a home run off a left-handed pitcher, rookie David Holmberg making his season debut, for the first time since April.
• The Pirates took advantage of the blowout by getting some players rest. Jung Ho Kang and Francisco Cervelli were removed. Cervelli has been banged up most of the season, and the Pirates are quite concerned about Kang, who has never played a 162-game season.
Hurdle said he would have liked to have rested Aramis Ramirez and McCutchen, too, but “I ran out of players.”
• Gregory Polanco played the whole game, as well, one day after being removed because of knee soreness in Minnesota. He beat out a bunt single on the game’s first pitch and wound up 2 for 4 with a walk.
• It’s hard to say what’s a break and what isn’t for these Pirates on the road against Central Division opponents, but at 12:49 a.m., about two hours after this game, the Reds traded Mike Leake, their scheduled Sunday starter in this series, to the Giants for infielder Adam Duvall and pitcher Keury Mella. Cincinnati almost surely will have to dip into the minors again for a replacement.