Sidney Crosby is checked into the glass in the first period Thursday at Madison Square Garden. — GETTY
BY DEJAN KOVACEVIC
NEW YORK — It’s never enough that the Penguins lose in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
No, it’s always got to come with the standard set of narratives attached, too.
So what say we check off a slew of these from this 2-1 series-opening loss to the Rangers last night at Madison Square Garden, shall we?
The goaltender gagged again.
Now, anyone who watched this with even a modicum of hockey acumen, whether in person or on a satellite feed from Saturn, would know this wasn’t the case. But let’s tackle it, anyway.
Marc-Andre Fleury, invariably the first direction the fingers point this time of year no matter how deep he buries his penchant for postseason failure, turned out a trampoline rebound on the game’s first shot, a harmless long-distance slapper from the left boards by Rick Nash. The puck bounced right to the blade of Derick Brassard, who buried it with ease after only 28 seconds had ticked off.
“Bad rebound,” Fleury would say later.
Sure was. And all he did in response was stop 36 of the next 37 shots. He was nothing less than the very best player on either team.
Why can’t the best player in the world produce in the playoffs?
Sidney Crosby, I’m betting, will take a lot more heat than Fleury, maybe the bulk of it. And it won’t be without cause, given that he’s still stuck on one goal over his past 19 playoff games and this one was nothing special: He had no points, he was a bystander on that opening goal, and he missed one more shot than he registered, which was only one.
Oh, and there was this weirdness, too …
I have no idea what Crosby could have been thinking there and, unfortunately, I didn’t see this with such clarity until well after any access. But it looks awful. It looks like he’s frustrated by not getting a pass from Rob Scuderi, then intentionally coasts offside, then does some talking to the bench.
That will be worth a question or two at the next opportunity.
Overall, though, there were mitigating factors. Not excuses, either. Real stuff.
In the first period, Crosby logged a ridiculously low 3:42 of ice time, partially because the Rangers were awarded all four power plays and partially because Mike Johnston, coaching his first NHL playoff game, clearly was so hellbent on avoiding counterpart Alain Vigneault’s preferred matchup — the Brassard checking line — that he forgot that, you know, Crosby needs to play. Even if that means playing short-handed.
It was a big blunder, and there was zip the captain could do about it.
Beyond that, the flat-out bizarre decision to keep Daniel Winnik on the top line with Crosby and Patric Hornqvist — mercifully undone in the third period — was a killer. Winnik, a lifelong mucker, couldn’t catch routine breakouts, much less make anything happen with those he did. And the Rangers knew it, motioning to each other to pick up Crosby and Hornqvist in the neutral zone and letting the rest fall where it may.
As Vigneaut confessed afterward, “It was numbers I was looking for” against Crosby.
I don’t have hard answers here, except this: Winnik isn’t it.
Neither is Chris Kunitz. At the risk of beating the horse deeper than the Penn Station tracks under the Garden, watching him play anymore is just painful.
Try someone else. Anyone else. Get creative. New York’s team defense, especially five-on-five, is far too solid to victimized by any two-man line.
Hey, why not Crosby and Evgeni Malkin together?
Is spreading around the offense more important than getting one or both of those guys going?
Vigneault wants to load up with numbers, but he’d lose that option in a heartbeat.
What about the world’s other best player?
This one needs no elaboration: Malkin is pushing through significant pain. It shows every shift, including those where he positively owned the Rangers in the third period. He doesn’t have a goal in his past 11 games, or a point in his past six games. Those are the worst such stretches of his career, and they’re no accident.
That Malkin ascended as he did in the third period was helped by his wingers — Blake Comeau and David Perron — both playing at their peak for the first time since, what, January?
Crosby should be so lucky.
The other coach was smarter.
That might well be, if isolating on the aforementioned Johnston mistakes. But the fact — and this was undisputed on either side — was that the Penguins enjoyed a strategic advantage on multiple levels. This was most true of their ability to disrupt the Rangers’ trademark east-west surges up ice, in which they try to spring their speedy left wingers. Johnston made this the central theme of preparations at Consol this week, and the Penguins came through by picking off pucks left and right.
“Credit them” New York defenseman Ryan McDonagh said. “They had some good structure in the neutral zone. We couldn’t get the pucks behind them as much as we like to.”
Johnston also showed new tricks, including lining up Malkin behind Crosby on faceoffs in the old James Neal trigger spot — Crosby cleaned up on draws, by the way, at 15-5 — and other nuances aimed at helping his battered defense move quickly up ice.
The coach evidently learned from a couple of his mistakes right away, judging by the adjustments for the third. Now, no doubt, he’ll have to make even more for Game 2 tomorrow.
Evgeni Malkin lets a shot rip past the Rangers’ Dan Boyle in the third period. — GETTY
So, if none of the above narratives fully applies, why, then, did the Penguins lose?
From this vantage point, they simply picked the wrong period to play well.
I liked their overall effort, their Xs and Os, their determination, their Hornqvist-cloning going hard to the net, their composure as related to everyone but Steve Downie and, above all, the way their confidence grew. They looked anything but overwhelmed once the first few minutes faded away. And that, especially in the context of the chance that most people — myself included — are giving them in this series — made them look and feel 180 degrees different than, you know, ‘fragile.’
They talked a little tough, too.
“We’re a confident team in here,” Ben Lovejoy said. “We can not only play with that New York Rangers team, but we can beat them. We didn’t bring it early enough tonight, but we feel we have the guys in this room.”
He was anything but alone. Several other players spoke of sensing a gradual buildup.
“We definitely got stronger as the game went along and started feeling better about ourselves,” Crosby told me. “That was very encouraging to see.”
Listen to Fleury …
“We’re fine,” Fleury shared later. “Believe me, we’ll be fine.”
I absolutely didn’t believe before. I might now, at least a bit.
For one, the chance of officials calling five power plays for the Rangers to one for the Penguins again figures to be remote, never mind all four in the opening period. Jean Hebert and Marc Joannette made three of those initial calls on ticky-tack plays — only a Perron slash was justified — but then, in the spirit of Gary Bettman’s NHL, put the whistles away in the third while the Rangers committed institutional interference at a level only the 2009 Red Wings could appreciate.
Which is to say nothing of a high stick from New York’s Kevin Hayes that bloodied Scuderi but went uncalled, or Malkin being boarded face-first in the third with no arm raised.
The Penguins wouldn’t complain about officiating.
“It’s part of the game,” Scuderi said, motioning to his nose that needed seven stitches while still wearing thickly bloodstained socks. “You just deal with it.”
“We just have to work through it,” Perron said.
I don’t like criticizing officiating, either. But what’s a penalty in one period is a penalty in any other, the league office always claims. The Penguins had every right to be rewarded for their work in the third period the way the Rangers were for theirs in the first.
Beyond more balanced officiating, the Penguins also would benefit from Christian Ehrhoff’s return. And the vibe I got after this one is that it could happen in Game 2.
He’ll be no panacea, but he’ll certainly help mitigate the crazy count of nine icing calls against the Penguins, including three in the critical final five minutes. The Wilkes-Barre tandem of Taylor Chorney and Brian Dumoulin acquitted themselves mostly well, but Ehrhoff and maybe Derrick Pouliot could restore some sanity to the breakouts. Pouliot is here and skating, as well.
Oh, and for all the Penguins’ ails on the blue line, the Rangers lost Dan Girardi, one of their best, early in the third period when a puck clanked off his jaw. He’s no Kris Letang, but he’d be a sizable loss for Vigneault.
Add in keeping Comeau with Malkin — maybe that very Comeau-esque goal will ignite him — and finding someone, anyone for Crosby’s left wing, and Game 2 could well be a continuation of the final half of this one.
“I don’t see why not,” Fleury said. “Game 3 in Pittsburgh would be pretty nice, then, you know?”
Check all narratives at the Consol doors if that comes to pass.
The officiating was disgusting. I don't dismiss the many other flaws in the game plan, but the officiating was disgusting. If you're calling penalties 5-1 in a playoff game, I don't think you're watching the game.
John, oh the refs are watching alright. they know full well who the Ranger's opponent is. case closed!
alantig
4-17-2015, 8:18 am
Only two other series had such a wide discrepancy on PP chance - Ottawa's 5 to Montreal's 1 (and one of those was a 5-minute major), and Tampa Bay's 7 to Detroit's 3.
I work Thursday nights so couldn't watch. But I already can see the old narratives popping up on social media. But I'm excited to watch Saturday.
And I really appreciate how you can be brutally honest on all sides. If they are bad, you say so. If there is a bright side, you express that as well. Most anymore only seen to prey on this team's misery (media and public a like). Thanks for that DK.
The real story is the fact the Penguins offense just doesn't work. They haven't been able to score for months. They get no O zone time. It's chip and chase. Sucks.
Chip & chase was, in part, what enabled the Pens to control the play from the 2nd Period on. That in concert with good neutral zone play that took away the Rangers stretch pass game and Flower's play is what gave the Pens their chance to win last night.
The penalties early and the icings late is what took it away. Fix these and stay on top of the rest of the game and the Pens have a fighting chance in the series.
Nick Powers
4-17-2015, 12:26 am
The Hayes high stick was on a follow through so technically the correct call. However the tackling and boarding missed were ridiculous as always.
The whistles were clearly in the refs pockets after the 1st Period. Just a little too much "let the players decide the game" attitude for my taste.
TomPaulBillyBob
4-17-2015, 7:37 am
The interference call (on Chorney in the 1st) was the only one I rally got upset over...how many times do we see Oven-chicken do that a game (or any other player for that matter) during the reg season? If it's allowed in reg season, it sure as heck should be allowed in the place where they "swallow the whistles."
fatboy1271
4-17-2015, 12:27 am
Looked a lot better to me than what I was lead to believe this iteration of the team would produce. Can't wait to see what game 2 produces.
Good article DK! I said before the series that the Pend would lose in 5 but the way they played in the 2nd or 3rd it might be a deep series. Probably Rangers in 6-7. Johnston needs to jungle the lines get Winnik off the top line. Put Downie or Kunitz back up there. Hey even though he has 1 goal in about 25 games maybe he can give Sid a spark. Fleury played great he kept them in the game! I'm worried about Sid 1 goal in 18 playoff games just doesn't cut it. With all these non penalties called I think teams know exactly how to play and get him off his game. They put a guy on him the whole game and he can't adjust. I'm thinking Sids good playoff performances are behind us. What you see is what you get.
Totally agree. And if it's about money instead of winning (or at least giving the team a better chance to win), then my oh my we're entering into the cynical realm of Pittsburgh Pirates talk.
MikeVee
4-17-2015, 1:11 am
He cant come up, he's too small per management.
WildcatRay
4-17-2015, 7:08 am
Because of the situation, I would consider moving BB up onto Sid or Geno's wing rather than continue to cringe seeing Kunitz or Winnick up there.
Wilson and any other WBS forwards on the 3rd/4th lines would be better than Kunitz.
TomPaulBillyBob
4-17-2015, 7:41 am
Are the stipulations the same in the playoffs as the reg season, re: number of games before rookie season is in the books?
TomPaulBillyBob
4-17-2015, 7:44 am
And I'll pile on with the Kunitz deal too--he was horrifyingly awful--he can't even take a pass anymore
bigchinook
4-17-2015, 9:09 am
I thought Beau had a good game last night.
Owtahear
4-17-2015, 9:18 am
Here's a thought:
1) How about playing Bennett with one of the top 2 Centers?
2) How about trying him on his natural (RW)? Some guys can play either wing, Bennett doesn't look like one of them.
What can it hurt from a production standpoint? Of course, this should have been tried a few months ago.
TomPaulBillyBob
4-17-2015, 12:17 pm
I think they did try that experiment once, and obviously since they are no longer doing that, you know the result (speaking of BB on a top line)
bettis36
4-17-2015, 12:41 am
This team has too many passengers. Kunitz and Perron are stealing their paychecks. We basically have one legit top 6 wing these days. Tragic. On another note, props to Chorney. Guy has played well enough to stay in the lineup.
If/when Puliotte/Erhoff are ready or Harrington for that matter, I thought the smart move on HCMJ part would be to dress 7 D-men and rotate them all, then have someone double-shift to get the 2 forwards on ice, too.
Actually, if he came up with good combinations, Sid might just benefit from double-shifting with the right line-mates.
Oh how quickly people forget that we've heard "we'll be fine" for 5 years now. Look, coming out of the gates looking like a newborn fawn is INEXCUSABLE. This team averages what, the second oldest average age in the league? Why on earth did they look totally overmatched to start the game? At that point, you're quickly down and it's a sizable hole you've ALLOWED. I don't care about "compete" and all those other lousy, empty platitudes- this team is still so "fragile" it's disgusting.
They looked over matched because THEY AREEE I mean JESUS Christ look at our line up. Like
Truly look at our blue line right now. Our
Lines are a mess can't get chemistry going at all. We are severely outmatched.. And most of it is injuiries. You can say that's no excuse all you want but if our d was 7-58 3-10 28-51/12 things would be incredibly different. What can GMJR do when he acquires good guys who do great getting here and the first
Few games then just stop.. Perron.. Winnik was bad tn..
DiegoPittFan
4-17-2015, 12:53 am
Dejan, Let me help you out. They lost because their Mental Midget goalie let in two soft goals. It's not the saves you make its the ones you don't. 28 seconds into game one on a weak shot from the blue line, yup that sounds mike MAF. Don't get e started on Crosby. Captain No Show. The invisible Crosby makes Fleury look clutch.
I always enjoyed your reasoned introspective takes, very refreshing in an internet full of trolls, Tommy Toughnuts, and an incredibly high number of licensed Sport Psychologist.
WhatThePuck?
4-17-2015, 1:07 am
Maybe you'd prefer to strap on the pads and start game 2 in place of Fleury?
MikeVee
4-17-2015, 1:26 am
I can't argue the Fleury point, a goal from blue line is inexcusable. You're off on Sid though. His line is basically him and Hornquist. So it will always be a mismatch against good teams
ajbeam7
4-17-2015, 2:13 am
Let me stop you at, "Dejan, let me help you out."
ajbeam7
4-17-2015, 2:17 am
I wish there was a DiegoPittFan on Pittsburgh Sports website. I've always preferred the writers who publish the most ridiculous things they can think of.
Rico
4-17-2015, 5:42 am
First of all, the puck didn't go in from the blue line, the rebound got away from him and because Brassard wasn't covered, it was an easy chance. Blame Fleury all you want, but the D is equally at fault there. Second, I can see your hockey comments are just as incisive and penetrating as your brilliant insights into the Steelers. I only hope you're not a baseball fan.
Scaldis Noel
4-17-2015, 6:00 am
Why do any of you respond to the troll? Ignore him. Don't comment on what he says. He's trying to get a rise out of you.
Roman
4-17-2015, 10:08 am
Congratulations, you have been awarded with the "Yinzer Comment of the Day" award.
MikeVee
4-17-2015, 11:37 am
Goal 2 was from right inside the blue line. Did you watch the game?
WildcatRay
4-17-2015, 12:05 pm
Even the best goalies let in "bad" goals from time to time. And, yes, the 2 last night cost the Pens the game. What you cannot deny is Flower righted the ship and shut out the Rangers for the 2nd & 3rd Periods. That gave the Pens their chance. It is not on him that his teammates could not get the equalizer.
nightsky73144
4-17-2015, 1:06 am
I'd like to see Malkin up with Crosby and Hornqvist...just periodically. I mean, in the third and you're coming on as a team, and you're only down one goal...
I just think that putting Kunitz up with Crosby and Hornqvist right there is not the answer. Maybe you get both Malkin and Crosby going a bit if they can draw fire for each other, with Hornqvist bulling his way to the net.
I honestly thought, after that mess of penalties (at least two of which were pretty ticky tacky) in the first, that the Pens played well.
Here's hoping that Comeau scoring gets him going, so that the Pens actually have more than one winger who might score.
Maybe this is crazy, but I'd to see them give Downie a shot with Crosby. He's a good enough shot and net-front presence that either Crosby can focus on getting the puck to him or he can help make time-space for C to get shots off on his own. And maybe having him out on the same line with C will reduce some of the beatings C is taking. I also think that Downie is the type of the guy that, if told outright that it's his job to help Crosby score, he'll focus on that and maybe avoid losing his mind and taking stupid penalties.
I keep saying this. His hands are at least 50% better than Winnik's and he's actually played successfully on a top line with world-class players before. Not enforcing, but producing.
It appears that somebody or bodies simply doesn't want him there.
Groat2Maz2Strangeglove
4-17-2015, 11:22 am
Sell your soul to a player who has earned NOTHING and continually puts his team in a hole.
jimbo831
4-17-2015, 12:27 pm
Brilliant idea! Let's give the guy that does nothing but take penalties more ice time so he can take even more penalties!
patmos3
4-17-2015, 4:48 pm
Downie has 14 goals playing with grinders. He would be an upgrade over Kunitz
burghsportsguy
4-17-2015, 1:20 am
I'm not blaming Sid in any way. It was, however, his worst effort of the past couple of weeks, IMO.
I won't make excuses for him either, though. Mario and Jagr absolutely DOMINATED in the playoffs, strapped the team on their back and clearly showed they were the best in the league regardless of linemates or match ups. You'd never watch an 80s/90s Pens playoff game and notice a guy like Randy Gilhen having more impact than Mario (like Lapierre tonight).
Name one player who's played on a line with Sid who, at the time, was even close to being as good as Jagr (not to mention Kevin Stevens or Ron Francis or Rick Tocchet). Only one cuts the mustard and that's Geno. No one else, ever, is really even that close. Can we get a little realistic perspective before saying things like "regardless of linemates"? Seriously, where did this 1-on-5 basketball mentality come from for Penguins "fans"?
Robert
4-17-2015, 8:34 am
In just the 92 season, the top playoff scorers were Lemieux, Stevens, Francis, Jagr, Tocchet, and Larry Mullen. 4 Hall of Famers, Tocchet should be, and a guy who would've been had he not been horrendously injured. 10th was Trottier, 500 goal scorer and Hall of Famer. And 12th was Joe Mullen, 500 goal scorer and Hall of Famer. I'd be happy to compare Sid & Mario if Sid ever had a team that good.
burghsportsguy
4-17-2015, 9:48 am
In 1989 Lemieux tied an NHL record for 8 points in a playoff game playing with Bob Errey and Downtown Robbie Brown. He sure had some stacked teams during Cup runs but REGARDLESS of his linemates (see 1989) he dominated. Look at Jagr in the late 90s strapping the team on his back.
Zico
4-17-2015, 11:33 am
@burghsportsguy
For someone with knowledge of hockey that backdatees to the late 1980's, you sure seem to be ignoring how the times have changed in hockey. When's the last time a player got 8 points in any game? Heck, when's the last player to put 5 points up in a playoff game? Everyone is bigger, stronger, faster, more stamina these days. Not to mention the game is played tighter defensively. Even more so than the late 90's. Until the league wishes to free up ice for it's skilled players, you're not going to see any top player for any team just will his team to victory outside of a goalie.
Jay Baileys
4-17-2015, 4:26 pm
Hossa was pretty good
MikeVee
4-17-2015, 1:22 am
Fact of the matter is, Fleury was outstanding tonight but he let in a goal 28 seconds into the game and a shot from the blue line. Sid will be unable to do anything with the type of coverage he has on him the second he touches the puck. The defense plays "flag hockey" AKA no hitting, poke check hockey. I really enjoyed how quickly the bad habits of the defense were embraced by Cole who did a terrible Lidstrom impression and almost cost another goal. He didn't play that way in St. Louis. Hats off to LaPierre tonight a great game and was the one that truly deserved the assist on the lone goal.
5 power plays - 1. That's the only difference in this game. Your best players don't play as much as they should, and a poorly timed penalty (I'm looking at you Steve Downie) kills momentum. Overall it was an incredibly even game. I also hate blaming officiating, but they blew that non-call on Scuderi horribly. Yes, a follow-through on a shot is absolutely a high-stick by letter of the law. They also allowed the Rags to completely mug us the entire 3rd. It's high time Rick Tocchet earned his paycheck and starts to control some of these guys who let their emotions get the best of them. One more minor penalty for stupid after the play nonsense and I'd sit Downie the rest of the series, regardless of how good he's capable of playing.
I don't know about the lack of power plays being the difference. The Pens power play has been so bad the past few weeks it might not have mattered at all. Then again, we didn't give up a short handed goal...
PlazMan
4-17-2015, 5:12 am
The Rangers were essentially tackling the Pens late in the game, further proof that the officiating is a joke.
All that being said, the Pens were without 3 of their top 4 Defensemen, had 2 guys from the AHL playing, faced that decided edge in PP time and STILL almost beat the Rangers. I, for one, thought they looked very good and anything like pushovers.
Absolutely PlazMan, and if the Rangers were the Penguins I would have to be reading comments about how we didn't win convincingly enough!,,,
TomPaulBillyBob
4-17-2015, 7:51 am
Agreed, if there ever was such thing as a good loss, this is it...they'll draw inspiration/momentum or whatever they can from this and proceed forward with a little more solidarity ...... the adjustments made after the 1st were awesome--something us Pens fans aren't quite accustomed to--who knew?
tzernick
4-17-2015, 5:45 am
The best shot from the point came from Scuderi, the need help on the blue line for sure.
Actually, and I will be the first to admit that he played badly with so many minutes when they had 5 D, Lovejoy's shot from the point led to the Pens' only goal.
Both he and Cole have decent shots, and need to use them effectively.
cooljerdoc
4-17-2015, 5:48 am
Crosby/Malkin/Hornquist together everyone line is for energy.
YES!
I'm not saying use it all the time, but when is the time to use it but in a game when you're trailing by one?
I understand the need to 'spread out the scoring' - but, when no one is scoring, throw everything you've got together.
Plus, maybe if you can get those guys going, you can make NYR focus so much on them that someone else gets more scoring chances.
loganbrubaker
4-17-2015, 6:24 am
When you're on the fringe of TV ratings and ability to interest the general public to grow the sport I would think the last thing you'd want to do is make the sport unwatchable. Congratulations Gary! You have supplanted George Costanza as Lord of the Idiots!!
Great read, as always, DK! I was highly upset with the officiating as well. Simply cannot swallow the whistles in the third period.
Also, yes, Fleury played very well, but you just can't spot the other team a 1-0 lead before the echoes from the Star Spangled Banner die down. I don't think that there IS a good time to give up a "soft" goal...but 28 seconds into the game....
A couple observations from the game - outside of Martin, the team played with all 3rd or 4th pairing defensemen and played pretty well. They have to get some offense generated from their blue line as none of their defensemen can shoot the puck with any authority. Also, given the gravity of the situation, how can Perron and Downie be so stupid to take such ridiculous penalties at that point in the game.
if the Pens are going to win, they must load up a line that gives them a reasonable chance to score. Right now they have three viable centers and few options on the wings. Why not a line of 71-72-87? Why not let Sutter center Malkin? Johnston seems incapable of imagination.
As far as the penalties, the Pens earned each one. But there were two easy ones on the Rangers in the 3rd that the referees passed on. That is inexcusable when the PPs were 5-1 in the game
I've been asking this question for 5 years. Every other team uses their top players on PK.
pghgolfgirl
4-17-2015, 7:14 am
Pens lost the game by giving the refs the opportunity to call ticky tacky penalties. Glad to see that they settled down after that, although I wouldn't be upset if they benched Downey. MAF gave up a bad rebound on the first goal but really played stellar afterwards and I fully expect that he'll play that way going forward. NYR played very well but I think the Pens outplayed them in the second and third, which is encouraging for the rest of the series.
My narrative: Rangers much better team.
Best chance to steal a game was always going to be Game 1, when Rangers play the role typically occupied by Pens, come out flat/rusty or try to put on a show for the home crowd.
I know it's been said already, but the Scuds non-call was a good one. There is no high sticking penalty for the follow-through of a shot or pass. That being said, the refs were still rough last night.
Doesn't hurt to say it again though, complain when the refs get it wrong not when they make the right call
Ed Gallagher
4-17-2015, 7:48 am
The only comment on officiating. They called a penalty with 12 seconds left in the Tampa Bay/Detroit game. Both teams were stunned and the infraction was rather mild.
I'm not much of an officiating basher, as I always subscribe to the 'everything comes out in the wash' line of thought....but this was horrendous--either call every ticky-tack play, or swallow em
Yea, flower played well. BUT, you can't give up that first goal in the first minute of the first game of the playoffs when you're a decided underdog. Set the tone for the game, IMHO. That's a routine save and steer to the corner for a mid level high school goalie. Of which I was
Following through on a shot is not a high stick penalty. However, the clutching and interference in the latter parts of the game by the Rangers (and no calls) should be reviewed by the league office.
What strikes me is how quickly this franchise has fallen down the rung of NHL elite teams. Now we are talking about how great it is to compete with teams like the Rangers, that somehow not getting blown out is a good game. It's what is great about sports. You never know and have to enjoy every second when times are good. I wonder how many die-hard Pens fans didn't really enjoy the cup in 2009 and instead were thinking about waiting to enjoy the 3rd or 4th cup in a row. Instead, that's all this team and era is going to get. I'm glad I loved every minute of it.
Well another narrative that was dispelled by the FOS (which replaces the FOM) who blamed the Pens and Sid's playoff failures on the Bottom 6 went by the wayside last night.
Look, I don't care if Sid's linemates aren't Lafleur and Bossy. He has to generate more scoring chances. It wouldn't be unheard of for Sid to not curl up and look for a trailer, and just tuck it and take the puck to the net and get a SOG.
Same with Malkin.
Look, it is what it is. Kunitz is done. Winnick is not top 6. Perron has stopped scoring. 71 and 87 need to get pucks to the net. Simple as that. They need to stop relying on wingers to get open and convert pretty passes. They need to shoot the damn puck! Get it on net, and have the puggers screen and crash.
It isn't that difficult. Also, memo to coach tri color hair, you can play 87 on the PK. It is not unheard of for an All Star C to play on the PK.
Crosby would have needed to be Jerome Bettis to score in the third. He might as well just plow the puck through the goal like it is a goal line if the game is reduced to tackle football.
Plow the puck through the goal line is what I was trying to say. Stupid phone.
Adam
4-17-2015, 9:13 am
No, I. wasn't. Brain fart. Carry on.
Sarah
4-17-2015, 9:16 am
Same old same old....
Teams overload and smother Malkin and Crosby and dare their Ws to hurt them. When those Ws include the likes of Winnik and Kunitz , well there's not much that's gonna happen.
This has been true for years now.
Bottom line, your 3-4-5 most skilled Ws are now BB, Downie, Comeau (maybe, he has a good record v NYR)...and they are not playing where they should be.
Make the changes NOW.
first time commenting. watched Pens since 1968 (OMG). Crosby has nobody to play with. Other stars given a chance with players on their line. How many times Crosby wins puck behind the net,circles,players hanging all over him, looking for anyone to pass to infront of net, in the slot, etc., no one there. Finally passes (quite a few times actually) in front of net, nothing, no one to put puck in net. Other forwards on his line constantly losing the puck in offensive zone. Pathetic. Other teams swarm, surround, whatever Crosby and there is no other threat on the ice. Crosby comes behind his own goalie to win pucks. Well that is great, one of the top players in hockey giving all that effort on defense. I think most other of the few elite are waiting out by the blue line for the puck. No talent on the line with him Same old story. Everybody, including Crosby should participate in the blame for this hockey team. But for insatnce first goal, Lovejoy did little to contest Nash's shot, no one picks up Brassard coming down the middle by himself. Many areas for blame. Anything can happen in playoffs but not too much optimism for this Stanley Cup run Have a great day
As one who is typically angry with our boys when they play poorly and HATES for them to lose, I am not even slightly upset about last night's loss. Once they got their legs under them, they played well. Well enough to let the Rangers & their fans know that this is NOT going to be an easy series for them and I think that's HUGE! For a team that was feeling and looking fragile just a week ago, the confidence they likely have gained from their play last night can't be understated.
As for the "Officials" last night, there isn't much more to be said. The lopsided numbers speak for themselves as do Joannette's & Hebert's historical numbers during Pens' games - the Pens are 3-6 over the last 2 seasons when Hebert's on the ice, 4-9 when Joannette is (thanks @_JoshTaylor_) for those stats). Fortunately, we're not the only hockey fans that are having issues with the inconsistency of the refs this season. I follow fans of lots of other teams & they're griping, too, so it's not just Yinzering. They're horrible, inconsistent, and play favorites ALL the time. Garbage Gary & his Band of Merry Morons have sunk to an all-time low this year and I'm not even sure it'll stop there. DK, you've coined one of the best phrases & hashtags, IMO, with "BEST sport, WORST league"!!!
To the Fleury haters: Yinz can kindly #STFD & #STFU. Flower was fantastic last night & if you don't know that, you either weren't paying attention or you don't know a damn thing about hockey.
Bring on Game 2 & Let's Go Pens!!!
The one big stat that no one can refute is Crosby having 1 goal in the last 19 playoff games. NO EXCUSES for that putrid stat. You make the Big Money you have to produce and that means making your team better when the games mean the most. This guy just disappears and thats one of the main reasons why we are so bad in the playoffs.
Half the D belongs in the AHL.
And I don't mean the kids. Chorney-Dumo handled it fine.
When Hoff an Poo come back, Lovejoy and Scuderi need to be in the press box.
But we all know THAT won't happen because #experience, or something.
They gave up 2 goals. They scored 1. It is not the defense that is the ultimate problem.
Sarah
4-17-2015, 12:15 pm
Watch more closely.
The poor puck movement by the D has much to do with the lack of O.
Scuderi and Lovejoybare simply awful at it.
Sarah
4-17-2015, 12:49 pm
For instructive comparison, check our Despres at ANA, he's able to take contact behind the net (and punish guys), come out with the puck make a good first pass, and/or skate it out if needed. Good speed and skill, and size.
Then watch Lovejoy and Scuderi avoid contact, play Hot Potato and panic-ice the puck 50 times.
burghsportsguy
4-17-2015, 9:57 am
Twice in the final week of the season, in HUGE games, the Pens effectively lost the game because of their PP (Ottawa shorty turned the tide and NYI shorty buried us early). I don't see how after watching this team all year people can believe that getting more PPs will turn the tide for us.
I found it totally amusing and appropriate that the Dan Bylsma-less Penguins gave up a stretch-pass goal 28 seconds into the 2015 Playoffs.
Whose man was it that scored on that opening rebound? Crosby, you say?
At least the new "puck-possession" offensive system functioned much better last night than Dan Bylsma's playoff offensive system did. You say what?
And Rick Tocchet totally has the Power Play humming and Steve Downie under control (except for that stupid, consistently in-character cross-checking the Ranger guy in the neck so harshly that it knocked his helmet off WHILE HE WAS ALREADY LAYING ON THE ICE little incident.)
And . . . . it was good to see General Manager Jim Rutherford's acquisitions at forward function so well meshing with world-talents Crosby and Malkin to make the Pens a complete team.
Finally the playoff offense Pens have lacked the last 2 years.
Hornqvist can't muck and grind if Sidney doesn't shoot!
Love that comment. Hornquist can't score the dirty goals in the crease if Sid just does pirouettes on the perimeter and looks for trailers.
sluesh53
4-17-2015, 10:27 am
I thought Johnston coached well throughout the game and nothing glared out at me. The 3 things that glared out at me was 1) Fluery's first 2 goals against were atrocious, and he was the best player on the ice for the remaining 50 minutes. Unfortunately the devil's in the details, and the first goal was routine enough it should have directed to the glass, and he was never close to square on the 2nd shot from 2 feet inside the blue line. That being said, he was great throughout the game and gives the Pens hope. 2) Kunitz is done, and Bennett should follow. They provided nothing. Cant carry the puck through the neutral zone or establish anything in the offensive zone, not physical enough, and cant catch a pass. Awful to watch them bring down their linemates. 3) This was the best game the Pens have played in a long time. They brought some light into the dismal past month. If 2 guys can come up from WBS to help replace Kunitz and Bennett, and provide a spark, I think the Pens have a chance to make things interesting.
The no call on scuderi was a clear example of "managing the game" by the officials. There is no way they missed the call. Even if none of them saw the stick actually come in contact with his face. it was completely obvious what happened, if not from his head snapping back then from the blood all over the ice. It is the most automatic of calls next to the puck over the glass call. But the refs knew that a double minor at that point in the game would influence the outcome for sure and "let them play." In the end the league gets what it wants - a one goal game.
There's no penalty for High Stick on a follow through from a shot.
Refs were bad, but not on that non-call.
jmbauer75
4-17-2015, 8:08 am
thanks billy
alantig
4-17-2015, 8:09 am
Exactly BB - the rulebook states:
However, a player is permitted accidental contact on an opponent if the act is committed as a normal windup or follow through of a shooting motion, or accidental contact on the opposing center who is bent over during the course of a face-off.
teaman87
4-17-2015, 8:27 am
Ok why did the ALWAYS call it in the regular season???
BillyBaduka
4-17-2015, 6:33 pm
@teaman
They didn't always call it in regular season. Again, the refs were bad but not on that no-call.
The Chorney interference call was terrible. NYR didn't play the puck, but it was definitely in his range to be played when Chorney hit him.
@jm - no problem
@atlantig - thanks for the rule book quote
JonYac32
4-17-2015, 10:40 am
Officiating was a joke! I heard on the radio this morning that the Pens are 0-19-5 when trailing after two periods this year. We better come out flying in game two.
We fans must face the music, which has been playing for nearly one half of this year, if not longer. The Penguins team is not elite any longer. While they have regressed, our expectations have not done the same which will typically end with frustration.
There are so many issues with this team, even obvious to someone like me who is a fan dating back to early 70's, there is not a panacea or a quick fix. The play of 87 is unacceptable and I will not give him a pass on this fact. His scoring in playoffs is unacceptable and I'm certain he believes this too.
The amount of times the Penguins iced the puck was ridiculous. This includes, by the way, with under one minute in the game when they had pulled the goalie. Dump and chase was seemingly their preferred manner to get into the offensive zone, again, even with a man advantage.
I've said this previously referencing Mr. Kovacevic's use of "garage league" and the comments on the Commissioner. Get over it. He has been at the helm 22 years and one would think those who he is accountable to, the team owners, would know better than you, or me, whether or not he is derelict of his duties to the point of him "ruining" the game, as some people have said. Every Commissioner has had the same claims, whether it was Goodell, Stern (now Silver), or Selig. Same claims, different day.
I think your lengthy comment has much merit. The Penguin unfortunately have devolved into just another team and Sidney Crosby is just another "good" player this season and in the Playoffs in general.
I'm interested in your last paragraph. I agreed with it. Everyone with sports interest has their scapegoat, their "Safety valve to blow off steam" anger target. For Dejan it is consistently Bettman (who has been there for multiple decades and "ain't goin' away!), Beau Bennett, and Chris Kunitz. For Sarah it is Rob Scuderi and Kunitz (her former target of Dan Bylsma is looking much better now), my personal "target of anger when frustrated" is Bob Nutting and his BMTIB.
For Pittsburgh fans of any sport, it is ALWAYS the officials, the umps, the referees. THEY DONE US WRONG!! They're out to get US!
Maybe we all need those scapegoats to survive losses.
BRING BACK DAN BYLSMA!!
Michelle
4-17-2015, 11:30 am
When the officials give them five power plays, they're almost w completley healthy roster.. Everything the Penguins aren't right now. No excuses just the reality.. If pens had five power plays maybe they could have tied the game and we'd be talking about a comletley different column. It's that simple. 87 never played great against the Rangers.. Just happens we always have to face them in the post season. It looks like he's fighting for every inch of ice and he literally has none. Id hardly say he didn't give an effort..
Scott in Orlando
4-17-2015, 11:53 am
Groat2Maz2Strangeglove
Thank you for the response and viewpoint. I agree with your assessment as well (except the Duke of the North) :)
I cannot say whether other sports towns are as vociferous as Pittsburgh relative to blaming refs, commissioners, etc. I do know, as a born and raised Pittsburgher, the complaining from the support base of the teams, of which I am one, seems consistent. In other words, IMO, we have earned the moniker of "whiners".
To Michelle's comment, thank you too for your response in offering your opinion. There is no right, or wrong in what we all write. We all offering different views of what we see. 87 has not just been horrible against the NYR's, he has been an equal opportunity offender of most teams recently, IMO. Relative to the officials "giving" the penalties. This is reflective of my comment above. The Penguins team has displayed zero discipline and this perceived fact is a coaching flaw. The team is accountable for their demise.
Michelle
4-17-2015, 12:05 pm
No I do agree with a lot of what you said! Just trying to see the optimism in this time.. If our blue line was healthy and maybe team got a few more PP's I feel like the game COULDVE gone out way. I don't think it was a disaster as some stated. In regards to 87.. I don't really know what to say. The way the game is now this season is really tough for a guy like him. You see the youngsters dominating (seguin? Tarasenko etc) because imo they grew into this type of hockey,. Crosby didn't. Ovi didn't either but he has that shot at the point.. I think what, 35 of his goals are scored from there? He's always had that shot.. Where as sid dominates with space. Just a tough league right now for his type of game. Hopefully he can adapt
Rangers a better team
Everyone of those penalties was justified.
Equal opportunity non-calls both ways after 1st period.
I've never seen Gary Bettman strap on skates. Have you?
I'll bet you think all your adult problems are because of your parents, especially your mother!
DJ
4-17-2015, 12:09 pm
Very silly.
Time to take down your Bylsma poster in your bedroom.
Groat2Maz2Strangeglove
4-17-2015, 12:50 pm
I'm sorry: I missed your point.
Which of the above 5 points was silly?
Each one most assuredly true.
The only unverifiable one is #5, but you're helping.
Don't tell me you're STILL blaming Dan Bylsma for the Pens' performance THIS year?!
DJ
4-17-2015, 12:55 pm
Bad day for you, huh?
Keep the faith and things will pick up for you.
Mike Dydynski
4-17-2015, 11:52 am
You're Right again DK! There is no room on the ice for 87 & 71. Put them together and maybe the ice can open up a bit. Try 17, try 39 again? And by the way why not double shift 87 with some other lines just to get him on the ice. Why make it easy for the Rangers to know when to load up?
When are you coming to Wheeling to cover a Nailers Game? They're a Pens affiliate, ya know?
And they won game 1 of their playoff series against the ECHL version of the Rangers (Best record) last night on the road. And...there's a Starbucks within walking distance of WesBanco Arena. Games 3-4 and next Monday and Wednesday; love to have you.
Donnie Mason
4-17-2015, 12:52 pm
Stink, I'm in NYC this week but was counting on the meetup to be tomorrow afternoon! Have a good time.
jimbo831
4-17-2015, 12:23 pm
DK, the high stick on Scuderi was correctly NOT called a penalty. According to the rules (60.1), it is not a penalty if the high stick occurs on the follow through of a shot, which is definitely what happened in this case.
Prolly the correct call but we all know if Downie had been holding that stick, what would have happened.
Really it was the blatant obstruction last half of the game that the refs ignored that was more frustrating.
They have returned the game to its lowest point in History, it is now Dead Puck v2.0....nice going guys.
At 19:10 of the 3rd when the Pens called time out, did anyone notice the difference between the two benches?
NY: players are huddled together, Ulfie has a dry erase board, he's drawing, barking at his players. Coaching. Communicating.
Pens: players loosely gathered at the bench. No one talking. No dry erase boards. Coaches not even addressing the players. No diagraming of a play. No direction or coaching. MJ staring off into space.
Take from this what you will but I find it very telling.
Wait is it missing the point to crush the so-called Best Player in the League and Team Captain for deliberately going offsides when he didn't get a pass from Scuderi in the 2nd period? I may know nothing about this sport, but that doesn't sound like a championship attitude.
That was pure frustration from an elite player forced to play with AHL caliber players much or the year. He's probably about ready to stab Winnik too. Hard to blame him.
Sarah
4-17-2015, 1:10 pm
Yeah that was really interesting.
Maybe Crosby just can't voice his negative feelings. But that was a big middle finger to Scuderi, and the bench mgmt IMO.
Dejan Kovacevic
4-17-2015, 1:23 pm
Just updated the column up there to reflect this sequence.
Owtahear
4-17-2015, 1:54 pm
I am ready to turn the page on this chapter. It might be best for all concerns to part company. Yes, I did just say that.
bpn8pitt
4-17-2015, 12:55 pm
Casual hockey fan comments:
Perron has been a colossal disappointment after some early success...I admit I don't know hockey well, but I felt the Winnik trade was an overpay, and to me it looks worse if they flame out in 4-5 games...i have always been a MAF critic, but they wouldn't even be there now without him...I am mixed on HCMJ. With the injuries and Winnik/cap debacle, aging vets I feel he has been dealt a rough hand. But if you make significant changes to the roster, a new coach makes sense particularly if their is a change in scheme and tatics as well.
I would not bail on Perron just yet. He has the skill they need for sure but has not shown it lately ....perhaps his hip has flared up again as in EDM....his skating is poor at moment. But IMO we shouldn't give up on him yet.
What did we give up for 20-odd games of Winnik? A 2nd/4th? Terrible.
As for MJ he seems like he knows a lot and says the right things, but his bench mgmt/personnel choices are terrible.
Kunitz is shutting down Malkin better than anything the NYR could do, and Johnston continues to hang onto him.
He has Scuds out w Sid constantly, and that helps shut down Crosby too, as if Winnik wasn't enough.
There are much better choices to at least TRY, but he is incapable for some rEason.
And there's no question he doesn't have the attention of this team.
tfftroy
4-17-2015, 1:24 pm
I do feel like a lot of the roster has been set up to fail. Guys playing top minutes who shouldn't. But the guys who SHOULD just aren't good enough now to give them those minutes. Winnik is a perfect example. Plus injuries on the blue line are killing this team.
I agree not to give up on Perron. Again, he needs the right linemates and opportunities to use his creativity and elusiveness. I thought he played great with Sid early on and then his sickness and other issues threw him off.
Just my opinion of course.
bpn8pitt
4-17-2015, 1:25 pm
I've watched a lot the last month, and HCMJ just seemed stunned at times...i think whenever the end comes here, should be interesting. Maybe a calm before the storm...sorry they disappointed you this year Sarah. Hopefully Mario fixes it soon.
Bryan
4-17-2015, 1:05 pm
After the first I thought they matched the Rangers quite well.
To be fair, the officials also missed/blew a rather obvious hooking call on Downie, in case there's thought of a conspiracy (not from DK, just saying that this is more ineptitude than malice).
Also I loved how DK was proven right by Lundquist's....kvetching about interference after some Twitter nonsense yesterday.
Regarding the intentional offsides by Sid, he may just be frustrated by playing with so many guys with such little offensive skill or intuition. Jabronies, I believe Madden calls them.
Great article. But your support of Perron is completely unjustified. He is weak on the puck, doesn't back check, and is all around a weak hockey player. About all he did well is a keep in at the blue line on the power play. Swapping a first round pick for him is absolutely a steal for Edmonton.
The only references to Perron were related specifically to this game. You're the one who broadened the scope. And thanks!
Shawn
4-17-2015, 1:26 pm
no great excuses..and there can only be two rational ones..
a) he wanted to the puck and didnt get it
b) (im reaching with this one)...they were a little extended, and maybe he used the whistle to get off the ice
The officiating had zero to do with this. The clowns called things the way they always do. In other words, unless you murder someone in the third, you won't be called. I thought all the calls on the Pens were legit. Maybe they could have evened up the Comeau one, but that's about it.
The fact is, in terms of your narratives, Crosby WAS invisible all night. That narrative can be fully supported. At least the injured Malkin played a great third period. But 87 did absolutely nothing noticeable, unless you count helping the Rangers score their first goal. They aren't paying that guy $12 million to look good in the regular season. They are paying him to produce when it counts. he has proven the past couple seasons that he incapable of doing so. So why exactly ARE they paying him? Oh yeah, to sell tickets. Good luck with that after this disaster of a season.--Mike
Maybe watch the game again... I can think of a number of times when 87 absolutely commanded the puck in the offensive zone, only to have no one to give it to. He can't be a one man line. I can also recall at least 3 times turned over in our defensive zone giving the Rangers an odd man rush that Fleury graciously bailed them out of. I'm not saying Sid played as well as he needed to, but saying he was invisible all game just isn't accurate.
MASH
4-17-2015, 1:40 pm
You know what's amazing? Our Junior Coach had Rob Scuderi on the ice for 2:16 of the final 5 minutes. That was the most of any defenseman. You desperately need a goal to tie a playoff game and you think giving Rob Scuderi minutes is the way to do it? The guy doesn't be,long on the ice in ANY situation, let alone an offensive one. This total lack of situational awareness is enough to get Johnston fired.
Sarah
4-17-2015, 5:26 pm
For anyone wondering why Crosby might be frustrated look no further than that stat. He's already overloaded because Winnik is no threat, now there's a big zero at the point also.
It was poor bench mgmt by MJ but we've been seeing that all year. You need a goal, Scuderi should never see the ice those last few minutes.
Flat out dumb.
Zach
4-17-2015, 1:29 pm
It's one thing to be mad about not getting the pass but to go offsides on purpose is just plain stupid. I saw it live and was astonished. Pens won't win series if Lapierre continues to be best C on ice for them.
Looks like Crosby was expecting a dump and a line change after Scuderi didn't attempt the pass. Happens all the time by a lot of players. Two players on two separate pages. The narrators will read into it whatever they want.
This is exactly what I thought when I saw the video. Sid expected Scuderi to dump it in, and when he didn't, he went to the bench.
JosABank
4-17-2015, 1:31 pm
Saw the "intentional" offsides last night live and took it exactly as it was.Sid was ticked off he didn't get the pass and just gave up on the play. Don't remember how late in the shift it was he could have figured that they were gassed and couldn't risk going back up the ice with a D man trapped.
Would love to hear what he has to say about it but I think any answer other than "I was frustrated I didn't get the puck when I felt I was open" (he wasn't really) would probably be less than truthful in my opinion.
In terms of deliberate offsides by Crosby, he clearly has a high level of frustration, not only with the last third of the season but probably with his ineffectiveness in the last few playoff series.
People question Crosby's leadership, and I've never been one to do so because leaderships comes in many forms. However, Crosby's decision to deliberately go offsides is not the behavior of a leader.
As for the Crosby play, I almost have to laugh. I don't know about you guys, but I definitely want the puck on Scud's stick in the neautral zone down 2-0 in a playoff game! Haha.
Certainly not a good decision by the captain, but he was coming with a lot of speed, and especially after hardly playing in the first period, I'm sure he was frustrated. With as much trouble as this team has had on the breakouts, it's foolish not to get the puck on Sid's stick. Honestly, this is a little comical.
Ignore this. The comment above me makes a lot of sense actually. Sid keeps coasting as he assumes Scuds is dumping the puck in (which is the only logical second choice to not getting him the puck). So he goes for a line change only to hear the offsides called which may have then frustrated him as he headed to the bench. Don't think he sabotaged the play now that I watch it more.
Michelle
4-17-2015, 1:35 pm
Just looks like he thought scuds was gonna dump then a line change? Certainly merits a question dk but idk I feel like these things happen a lot don't really see the need for q huge uproar for it to be honest
Actually on a closer look, I think you might be right. He looks away as Scuds approaches the redline so he probably assumed a dump in. And once he heard the offsides called, not really a big rush to get back on the bench. That makes a lot more sense than anything I said haha.
Michelle
4-17-2015, 1:52 pm
Yea that's just my opinion who knows what he was thinking! But in ten years of watching sid play and listening to his breakdowns and such Weve never seen him just quit willfully and if that's what people are going with.. Then we'll im signing off of social media for the rest of the playoffs ! Haha but after scuds didn't make initial pass to sid what else did scuds have to do but dump and change.. Which is clearly what it looks like sid was thinkin
Jim
4-17-2015, 1:37 pm
It's time we all face the fact that Johnston might not be cut out to be the head coach of an NHL team. You have to wonder why after all of these years he's just now getting his shot. I think he is a brilliant hockey mind and would be well suited to be the A but head? No, I'm sorry.
The D is what has let this team down since the early part of the season, yes injuries have played a major role in that but they are not the sole reason this team has collapsed. They picked a horrible time to stop scoring goals and now are their own worst enemy when it comes to the O zone. Teams figured out that beside Crosby, Malkin and Hornqvist there weren't any threats to concern themselves with. So just as Vigneault did their goal becomes to shut down those 3 and poof the Penguin offensive magic of October and November is gone.
Rutherford did a wonderful job at the start of his tenure but I think he went a little too trade happy (I for one agree with getting rid of Despres) I had thought at first this was a plan to fix Sheros god awful mistakes of his run as GM but it's apparent that it's coming from elsewhere. Possibly Mario pulling the strings on some of these moves? I dunno, only a guess.
The honest truth is here that this hasn't been a good team and they were lucky to be able to back into the playoffs in a weak conference (and luckily as well due to no draft picks this year). Enjoy the run as the ship has proverbially sailed on this team and I don't see it enjoying full sails any time soon.
Sutter is just plain worthless and honestly should be shipped out of town on the first thing moving. I will never for the life of me understand that contract.
If it wasn't for Fleurys stellar performance between the pipes...it easily could have gotten outta hand. Downie is a undisciplined train wreck. He's gotta know that the refs are watching his every move he makes so why give them a reason? At some point there has to be a choice made between Crosby and Malkin. This team CAN'T win another cup with both if them on the payroll. That might make some in PensNation mad (including the honorable DK....my apologies) but with the cap the way it is, a hard dose of reality my just sting a little.
The Blackhawks won the Cup with both Toews and Kane at $10mill a piece.
DJ
4-17-2015, 2:22 pm
Not sure on $10 mill 2 yrs ago. Thought that kicked in this yr or next.
Michelle
4-17-2015, 2:40 pm
Kicks in this year. They're gonna be getting rid of a whole lot this summer due to that cap hit....
DJ
4-17-2015, 2:45 pm
Yeah, this coming yr was what I recalled. Let's see how they fare.
Problem has never been our 2 elites. Problem has been little in draft and not committing earlier to young D.
notandymckenna
4-17-2015, 1:42 pm
RE Sid offsides: looks like a line change to me given that Scuds' role is likely just to dump the puck, Downie is out on the ice playing F1, and Crosby's reaction at the bench doesn't appear to give away any strong emotion. To not be aware of the blue line is unlike Crosby, but this seems like a non-issue.
On the Crosby offsides, live I thought he expected dump in and that's why he's way ahead of the play. Scuds normally reachs the red line and fire it in so that's how I read the play last night.
The Crosby offside is all in Scuds. He had Crosby open and looking for the pass and just ignored him because, you know, Scuds is a one man offensive machine that should be carrying the puck all the way into the zone instead of passing or dumping it.
Regarding Crosby intentionally going offsides, not condoning that action by him. However, can't blame him for being frustrated. I remember this play happening and I was yelling at the TV because Scuderi didn't make that pass. Crosby is coming through the neutral zone with speed and if he gets that pass, he's off to the races! How do you decide to not make that pass and instead carry it up the ice slowly???
Here is my defense of Scuderi:
a. it was the long change, and he was keeping the puck to the opposite side of the ice to allow his teammates to change behind him. If he threw the puck up the middle and had it intercepted, it could go the other way on an odd man break. It is a no-risk move, but that's the way he plays.
b. He had a ton of open ice, and potentially a 3 on 2 with 23 and 87 had 87 stayed onside.
I agree that Scuds shouldn't even be on the team, much less on the ice, that he probably would have messed up the 3 on 2. I agree that Crosby has likely been frustrated all season by this washed up old timer. But you have to play with the team you have, not the one you want.
apeasey
4-17-2015, 3:53 pm
Ok, no 3 on 2.
Sarah
4-17-2015, 5:33 pm
Scuderi had total tunnel vision there, incredible for a vet, but he's so poor at managing the puck it's not surprisng that it takes most of his attention.
Sid is coming throug neutral looking hard at Scuds, waiting for the pass, waiting, waiting and Scuderi never even notices him.
Just as he nears the blue line, Crosby realizes that Scuderi STILL hasn't even looked up, so he straightens and goes to the bench.
I got nothing but pure frustration there.
Bill
4-17-2015, 2:25 pm
On offsides play, it looked like Sid thought Scuderi was going to gain the red line and shoot the puck into the Rangers zone....
I'm surprised Scuderi's shock collar didn't zap him when he actually crossed the opposing blue line with the puck.
Anyway, you're not going anywhere with Scuderi and Lovejoy in the top 4. Scuds was out there in every offensive situation towards the end and it blew my mind.
On Sid's offsides, it looked like pure frustration. He may have thought Scuds was going to dump it, but more likely was expecting that pass. He's probably annoyed only playing with one good winger. Kunitz needs to go and Winnick has no business on the top line.
For all we knew he was yelling for the puck too and Scuderi can't hear, or see.
Joe Yinzer
4-17-2015, 6:03 pm
Scuderi can't make a pass that far. Frankly I've about had it with Captain Sid.
richw22
4-17-2015, 4:29 pm
Scuderi has no business carrying the puck at that point. The play was to Sid and he was expecting it. It never came and he was offside. Scuds unfortunately has no ability to jump on any rush. Sid and Gino have to be frustrated.
They played better, and of course, well enough to just lose by one. I may be alone on this one, but I don't wish for any power plays. They're more likely to give up a shortie than score. Their PP is a momentum builder for the other team.
The interference call in the first period was hilarious. That call hasn't been made in the regular season in 2 years.
Another reason why NHL refs should be replaced by chimps.
As for Sid not scoring in the playoffs....that ship has sailed. It isn't worth the complaints.
I agree with your whole post Rocco. The last thing the Pens need is to be on the PP. It's a momentum killer.
The Refs aren't worth commenting on anymore either. They are what they are which is the worst Refs in sports.
jimmy streich
4-17-2015, 4:45 pm
Love the "I'm not blaming Sid but" - But the fact is Sid the Skid hasn't shown up for the playoffs in a long time. Name me another superstar who disappears for long stretches including whole series. Moving Malkin up to the top line won't change anything, how about giving Malkin Horq. as his winger
Malkin should be on the top line with Perron and Hornqvist. Saw a game where Sid missed a shift because of a hit to the head or skate problem and those three went out and scored a goal within 20 seconds. It amazes me that they are always setting Sid up to eat and just give Malkin the leftovers. I think that's been the Pens problem for the last bunch of years. The guy that shows up at playoff time is not the guy their riding. Maybe putting Crosby on the second line will also light a fire under him as well.
Groat2Maz2Strangeglove
4-17-2015, 4:55 pm
If Sid going offside like that was not just an unfortunate mistake———If he intentionally did that with malice———he has no class!!
I would not accept that even from petulant Malkin!
What happens when you combine NHL hall of famers on same line? FRancis-Lemieux-Jagr had a pretty good season in 1996 and made it to the conference finals.. Except selfish Sid can't work it out with Malkin on PP, so I would like to see it but not sure it would help.
Nothing weird about it. Attacking other people on here personally isn't allowed. Unless it's me. Go nuts on me. Not anyone else.
jase
4-17-2015, 5:56 pm
great read.can we please just go bennet sid hornquist kunitz malkin perron let the 3 an 4 lines be of the men we brought here to play them?its a whole new season right?then lets act like it.
Crosby rarely shoots now days. He always looks to pass the puck no matter how stupid the pass is. I don't know what his problem is but I'm tired of it.
People are blaming Sid for being frustrated. Playing with guys like scuderi would frustrate any superstar stop blaming sid and start blaming management for keeping so many bums around this team. Call me when the pens have a formidable bottom 6 and a solid d-corp. anyone would be frustrated playing with guys that wouldn't even make an ahl roster nvm an NHL roster. I'm glad sid did what he did should open managements eyes about the good ole vet scuderi he simply sucks and lovejoy not far off either
Sid has 1 goal in his last 19 playoff games. No one is allowed to criticize him. Everyone makes so many excuses for him. "Well, he hasn't been healthy in some post seasons." "His line mates aren't that good" etc... The obligatory "best player in the planet" should stop. Most of the league doesn't buy that anymore. 1 goal in 19 games would suck for Craig Adams
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April 17, 2015
Column: Crush Crosby? Sure, but it’s missing point
210by Dejan Kovacevic • Columns • Tags: Penguins
Sidney Crosby is checked into the glass in the first period Thursday at Madison Square Garden. — GETTY
BY DEJAN KOVACEVIC
NEW YORK — It’s never enough that the Penguins lose in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
No, it’s always got to come with the standard set of narratives attached, too.
So what say we check off a slew of these from this 2-1 series-opening loss to the Rangers last night at Madison Square Garden, shall we?
The goaltender gagged again.
Now, anyone who watched this with even a modicum of hockey acumen, whether in person or on a satellite feed from Saturn, would know this wasn’t the case. But let’s tackle it, anyway.
Marc-Andre Fleury, invariably the first direction the fingers point this time of year no matter how deep he buries his penchant for postseason failure, turned out a trampoline rebound on the game’s first shot, a harmless long-distance slapper from the left boards by Rick Nash. The puck bounced right to the blade of Derick Brassard, who buried it with ease after only 28 seconds had ticked off.
“Bad rebound,” Fleury would say later.
Sure was. And all he did in response was stop 36 of the next 37 shots. He was nothing less than the very best player on either team.
Why can’t the best player in the world produce in the playoffs?
Sidney Crosby, I’m betting, will take a lot more heat than Fleury, maybe the bulk of it. And it won’t be without cause, given that he’s still stuck on one goal over his past 19 playoff games and this one was nothing special: He had no points, he was a bystander on that opening goal, and he missed one more shot than he registered, which was only one.
Oh, and there was this weirdness, too …
I have no idea what Crosby could have been thinking there and, unfortunately, I didn’t see this with such clarity until well after any access. But it looks awful. It looks like he’s frustrated by not getting a pass from Rob Scuderi, then intentionally coasts offside, then does some talking to the bench.
That will be worth a question or two at the next opportunity.
Overall, though, there were mitigating factors. Not excuses, either. Real stuff.
In the first period, Crosby logged a ridiculously low 3:42 of ice time, partially because the Rangers were awarded all four power plays and partially because Mike Johnston, coaching his first NHL playoff game, clearly was so hellbent on avoiding counterpart Alain Vigneault’s preferred matchup — the Brassard checking line — that he forgot that, you know, Crosby needs to play. Even if that means playing short-handed.
It was a big blunder, and there was zip the captain could do about it.
Beyond that, the flat-out bizarre decision to keep Daniel Winnik on the top line with Crosby and Patric Hornqvist — mercifully undone in the third period — was a killer. Winnik, a lifelong mucker, couldn’t catch routine breakouts, much less make anything happen with those he did. And the Rangers knew it, motioning to each other to pick up Crosby and Hornqvist in the neutral zone and letting the rest fall where it may.
As Vigneaut confessed afterward, “It was numbers I was looking for” against Crosby.
I don’t have hard answers here, except this: Winnik isn’t it.
Neither is Chris Kunitz. At the risk of beating the horse deeper than the Penn Station tracks under the Garden, watching him play anymore is just painful.
Try someone else. Anyone else. Get creative. New York’s team defense, especially five-on-five, is far too solid to victimized by any two-man line.
Hey, why not Crosby and Evgeni Malkin together?
Is spreading around the offense more important than getting one or both of those guys going?
Vigneault wants to load up with numbers, but he’d lose that option in a heartbeat.
What about the world’s other best player?
This one needs no elaboration: Malkin is pushing through significant pain. It shows every shift, including those where he positively owned the Rangers in the third period. He doesn’t have a goal in his past 11 games, or a point in his past six games. Those are the worst such stretches of his career, and they’re no accident.
That Malkin ascended as he did in the third period was helped by his wingers — Blake Comeau and David Perron — both playing at their peak for the first time since, what, January?
Crosby should be so lucky.
The other coach was smarter.
That might well be, if isolating on the aforementioned Johnston mistakes. But the fact — and this was undisputed on either side — was that the Penguins enjoyed a strategic advantage on multiple levels. This was most true of their ability to disrupt the Rangers’ trademark east-west surges up ice, in which they try to spring their speedy left wingers. Johnston made this the central theme of preparations at Consol this week, and the Penguins came through by picking off pucks left and right.
“Credit them” New York defenseman Ryan McDonagh said. “They had some good structure in the neutral zone. We couldn’t get the pucks behind them as much as we like to.”
Johnston also showed new tricks, including lining up Malkin behind Crosby on faceoffs in the old James Neal trigger spot — Crosby cleaned up on draws, by the way, at 15-5 — and other nuances aimed at helping his battered defense move quickly up ice.
The coach evidently learned from a couple of his mistakes right away, judging by the adjustments for the third. Now, no doubt, he’ll have to make even more for Game 2 tomorrow.
Evgeni Malkin lets a shot rip past the Rangers’ Dan Boyle in the third period. — GETTY
So, if none of the above narratives fully applies, why, then, did the Penguins lose?
From this vantage point, they simply picked the wrong period to play well.
I liked their overall effort, their Xs and Os, their determination, their Hornqvist-cloning going hard to the net, their composure as related to everyone but Steve Downie and, above all, the way their confidence grew. They looked anything but overwhelmed once the first few minutes faded away. And that, especially in the context of the chance that most people — myself included — are giving them in this series — made them look and feel 180 degrees different than, you know, ‘fragile.’
They talked a little tough, too.
“We’re a confident team in here,” Ben Lovejoy said. “We can not only play with that New York Rangers team, but we can beat them. We didn’t bring it early enough tonight, but we feel we have the guys in this room.”
He was anything but alone. Several other players spoke of sensing a gradual buildup.
“We definitely got stronger as the game went along and started feeling better about ourselves,” Crosby told me. “That was very encouraging to see.”
Listen to Fleury …
“We’re fine,” Fleury shared later. “Believe me, we’ll be fine.”
I absolutely didn’t believe before. I might now, at least a bit.
For one, the chance of officials calling five power plays for the Rangers to one for the Penguins again figures to be remote, never mind all four in the opening period. Jean Hebert and Marc Joannette made three of those initial calls on ticky-tack plays — only a Perron slash was justified — but then, in the spirit of Gary Bettman’s NHL, put the whistles away in the third while the Rangers committed institutional interference at a level only the 2009 Red Wings could appreciate.
Which is to say nothing of a high stick from New York’s Kevin Hayes that bloodied Scuderi but went uncalled, or Malkin being boarded face-first in the third with no arm raised.
The Penguins wouldn’t complain about officiating.
“It’s part of the game,” Scuderi said, motioning to his nose that needed seven stitches while still wearing thickly bloodstained socks. “You just deal with it.”
“We just have to work through it,” Perron said.
I don’t like criticizing officiating, either. But what’s a penalty in one period is a penalty in any other, the league office always claims. The Penguins had every right to be rewarded for their work in the third period the way the Rangers were for theirs in the first.
Beyond more balanced officiating, the Penguins also would benefit from Christian Ehrhoff’s return. And the vibe I got after this one is that it could happen in Game 2.
He’ll be no panacea, but he’ll certainly help mitigate the crazy count of nine icing calls against the Penguins, including three in the critical final five minutes. The Wilkes-Barre tandem of Taylor Chorney and Brian Dumoulin acquitted themselves mostly well, but Ehrhoff and maybe Derrick Pouliot could restore some sanity to the breakouts. Pouliot is here and skating, as well.
Oh, and for all the Penguins’ ails on the blue line, the Rangers lost Dan Girardi, one of their best, early in the third period when a puck clanked off his jaw. He’s no Kris Letang, but he’d be a sizable loss for Vigneault.
Add in keeping Comeau with Malkin — maybe that very Comeau-esque goal will ignite him — and finding someone, anyone for Crosby’s left wing, and Game 2 could well be a continuation of the final half of this one.
“I don’t see why not,” Fleury said. “Game 3 in Pittsburgh would be pretty nice, then, you know?”
Check all narratives at the Consol doors if that comes to pass.
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